Talk:Lipton’s Journal

Entry Dates

December 1, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
L1	1	Perhaps the artist is less
2	2	Lipton's seems to open one
3	3	Fucking is perhaps an approach
4	4	In relation to (1)	L1		Note.
5	5	The concentration camp novel			Note. Unclear x-ref # in note.
6	6	One should always listen attentively			Note.
7	7	Herbert A[ptheker]. said of Lipton’s			Note.
8	8	In modern jazz, one feels			Note.
9	9	Thoreau’s beautiful remark			Note.
10	10	I upset Herbert [Aptheker] by saying
11	11	In a short novel			Note.

December 8, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
12	12	One should always try to
13	13	It seems to me that
14	14	It is possible that many			Note.
15	15	All of my life with Adele
16	16	If there is that other world
17	17	Listening to a child
18	18	I advertise to everyone
19	19	Six and Four are close
20	20	Knowledge is systematized ignorance
21	21	A novel is slowly emerging
22	22	It may be that the
23	23	In the conc. camp novel	L17
24	24	There may actually be such
25	25	Every word sets up	L24		Note.
26	26	Television may have some extraordinary			Note.
27	27	Possibly the spasmodic nervous system
28	28	Vomiting may be the orgasm
29	29	No saint can be a teacher
30	30	Infants may be enormously wise
31	31	The saint and the psychopath			Note.
32	32	No one is more unreligious
33	33	Medicine may be witchcraft			end: [and] its emphasis on progress.
34	34	The aggressive instinct
35	35	Psychoanalysis, liberalism, etc. etc.
36	36	I have learned more from
37	37	In The Deer Park after the			Note.
38	38	If the more saintly people
39	39	In a Collier’s article			Note.
40	40	Words are not entirely bad
41	41	Death may be the price
42	42	I know nothing about semantics
43	43	Talk with Rhoda L.			Note.

December 17, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
44	44	The saint and the churchman
45	45	There is no death-instinct
46	46	What worries me today
47	47	Spengler is a great writer	L48		Notes.
48	48	Swing in jazz is different
49	49	When Susie speaks of “war”
50	50	There is a lesson for me	L47
51	51	A remark on why psychoanalysts
52	52	When the businessman thinks
53	53	Perhaps the reason Susy			Note.
54	54	I understand now what Danny			Notes.
55	55	The word is a flat
56	56	In the larger sense			Note.
57	57	The Stalinists have sneered			Note.
58	58	My characters in The Deer Park
59	58	Equations: Man is born			Added punctuation in ¶3.
60	59	The big novel could			Note.
61	60	I learned a practical matter
62	61	I have always hated sentimentality
63	62	The measurement of time
64	63	Advertising and television and radio			Note.
65	64	Because the desire for material
66	65	Almost always experts can never

December 28, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
67	66	At its best, my mind
68	67	Over and over again

December 29, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
69	68	“Vested interest” is enormously more
70	69	Get beneath words		(partial)
71	70	The gossip is the great
72	71	Words have not only echoes
73	72	The concealments of language
74	73	The sensual is the soul’s
75	74	The Sense of the Past
76	75	There are two kinds of hatred
77	76	The power of the word			Note.
78	77	They key to Sergius’ character
79	78	The breakup with Lulu			Note.
80	79	Jokes. Charley Wiener just said			Note needed?: Charley Wiener
81	80	Eitel in court			Note.
82	81	In error there is also truth
83	82	Eitel and Elena—last chapter			Note. Use partial w/ L81, too.
84	83	Don Beda			Note.
85	84	Interpretations of present events			Notes.
86	85	My feeling about semantics	L42		Note.
87	86	One thing must be said	L85, L71
88	87	Stories of dreams
89	88	Bombing as the great shitting
90	89	Comedians and comic writers
91	90	Women who always hate
92	91	The more knowledge
93	92	Possibly, bad works of art
94	93	The spy (another adventurer)			Note.
95	94	Actors and spies
96	95	When a friend says
97	96	“Am I boring you?”
98	97	So, boredom, depression, laughter
99	98	Saints and psychopaths
100	99	Laughter is spiritual
101	100	The psychopath sees the present
102	101	So the hipster is the adventurer
103	102	Given my intellectual verbal mind
104	103	A possibility occurs to me			Note.
105	104	Marion Faye note
106	105	Note 103 could be	L103		Could the x-ref actually be L105?
107	106	Marion Faye note			Note.
108	107	Marion Faye on Eitel
109	108	Marion Faye in prison
110	109	Sergius is my brother
111	110	Marion F Journal
112	111	My journal again
113	112	False humility			Seems like this should not be cut, as L115 alludes to it.
114	113	Marion Faye journal
115	114	(My journal) Arrogance
116	115	Humor is more than wit
117	116	Marion Faye’s note
118	117	Man may be terrible
119	118	The fear of being ridiculous
120	119	Toward the end of Marion
121	120	Marion Faye’s note about
122	121	Any art-work which
123	122	“Do you know, Sergius?”
124	123	Dorothea O’Faye could figure

December 31, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
125	124	I am getting whole bodies
126	125	Thoughts. All thoughts in words			Note.
127	126	People who make love
128	127	Get a tape recorder			Note. [add tea time info] still needed
129	128	Word echoes: We have
130	129	On the understanding of genius
131	130	Word echoes. Mother and smother
132	131	Seriously, truly, just simply
133	132	In Marion Faye’s journal
134	133	Jazz is more creative
135	134	I used to be outwardly
136	135	Years ago, working with Malaquais
137	136	The world allows us to express
138	137	My ambition remains
139	138	I think that the new
140	139	Sexual psychopathy would be normal			Note.
141	140	What I learn about The Deer Park
142	141	Most celebrities are people
143	142	Marion Faye’s journal
144	143	Anyone reading these notes
145	144	At the point where Eitel
146	145	The universe is a vast puzzle
147	146	In N.Y. if we want			Note.
148	147	Time is the sense of society
149	148	The so-called decadent writers
150	149	Wild thought. The atom bomb			Note.
151	150	Don Beda should be
152	151	What Stalinists see
153	152	Don Beda should be
154	153	Time as the sense of society			Hand-written note not included.
155	154	Bob Lindner. As he reads			Notes.
156	155	The homo-erotic corollary			Notes.
157	156	The corollary of this			Note.
158	157	What courage Adele has			Notes.
159	158	What terrifies me is exactly
160	159	The fuck novel, “Antacid Analgesique.”			Note.

January 3, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
161	160	If this record is to have
162	161	One of the curious effects
163	162	What I dislike so much
164	163	Perhaps a man kills
165	164	With Marion Faye this took
166	165	A psychopath expands
167	166	Any human scene
168	167	Precise speech appeals
169	168	Our fear of ghosts
170	169	On the other hand
171	170	The sensitivity spectrum			Note.
172	171	Does telepathic mean sick telepathy?
173	172	On television, many of the ads
174	173	There is also the possibility
175	174	Listening to Dizzy Gillespie			Note.
176	175	Word echoes
177	176	I suspect that an index
178	177	Psychopathic love
179	178	Consider whether Elena after
180	179	Sports and sex
181	180	Musicians. The saxophonist
182	181	Steve Allen talking while			Note.
183	182	I heard “The Star-Spangled Banner”
184	183	Competition of personality marks
185	184	Name for a Negro
186	185	Be-bop chorus
187	186	We may all have a social			Notes.
188	187	Perhaps the secret			Note.
189	188	This is the age
190	189	Memory may be a layer			Mailer underlined the first two sentences and wrote “Expand” in the margin.
191	190	There’s no such thing
192	191	How do you like my
193	192	Fatty foods are cunt foods
194	193	Bob told the pickle factory joke
195	194	Obscenity substitutes
196	195	Obscenity echoes
197	196	In Barbary Shore I planted

January 20, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
198	197	The poor drawing
199	198	Looking at myself			Note.
200	199	This is the age			Notes.
201	200	When we run across			Note.
202	201	The tragic air of Mexico			Note.
203	202	Rich boys are proud
204	203	“Instants” and “moments”
205	204	John Walsh is a homosexual			Note. NM wrote “expand” in the margin-left of the last paragraph.
206	205	If I have qualities of genius
207	206	The Perfect Secretary			See NM’s written gloss.
208	207	The night Bob spoke			Note.
209	208	The affected person
210	209	How much real hatred
211	210	What we do on the surface
212	211	Homeostasis may be true		(partial)
213	212	Our perception of others
214	213	Word echoes. Son is sin

January 24, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
215	214	Word echoes. Possible way
216	215	Friday, Saturday, and Sunday			Note.
217	216	To begin with, one			Notes.
218	217	How I’m getting to love
219	218	Spies are takers
220	219	Thoughts about The Deer Park
221	220	When Elena is first introduced
222	221	Wrestlers and boxers
223	222	Homeostasis and sociostasis			Note.
224	223	What I have noticed			Note.
225	224	My character. I have always			Notes.
226	225	Remember: The fear of being
227	226	In The Journal of Marion Faye
228	227	The movement of my writing			Should McLeod be glossed?
229	228	I have always been the romantic
230	229	To condemn	L205, L228
231	230	Our resistance about changing			Note.
232	231	Rojo and ojo
233	232	Man and his dog
234	233	For three years while writing
235	234	Romance and realism			Note.
236	235	The saint and the psychopath
237	236	In the saint-psychopath sense
238	237	This is the best day
239	238	I was deeply instinctively right
240	239	Yet the course of human history
241	240	For years, unknowingly
242	241	Bebop. P and B are sibling consonants			Notes.
244	243	Golfers are people who take
245	244	Put another way, the sociostatic
246	245	But look at the philosophical
247	246	It also suggests that action
248	247	Which leads me to			Note.
249	248	English is so magnificently blunt
250	249	To go back to note 245	L245		Notes.
251	250	Joyful thought
252	251	Children’s eating			Note.
253	252	Everybody is both male and female			Should NM’s spelling be made consistent: e.g., bi-sexual or bisexual?

January 25, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
254	253	The advances in medicine
255	254	The predictor, the prophet			Note.
256	255	The above note	L255
257	256	Bob is the dishonest man
258	257	I wonder if one doesn’t
259	258	Typing errors
260	259	But I wanted to finish		(partial)	Note.
261	260	What I wrote about Sergius
262	261	This Journal in so far
263	262	I realized so many funny
264	263	Since I started this Journal			Notes.
265	264	The sense of time
266	265	Old people don’t slow down
267	266	To continue 265 I wonder	L265
268	268	The interesting confirmation	L267
269	269	Fed up. We stuff ourselves
270	270	Radicals. Particularly socialists
271	271	Prose on wings, tra-la, tra-la	L270		Note.
272	272	So, modestly, I see my mission
273	273	Jews hated Hitler violently
274	274	What is a monster?

January 26, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
275	275	I am coming to believe
276	276	I have noticed in analytic			Note.
277	277	Let me put it this way			Should "basis" be "basic" in sentence 1?
278	278	I know now why I
279	279	Clues, mysteries, puns
280	280	In this sense, we are all
281	281	If the above sounds very fancy	L280
282	282	Sociostasis and sociostasis			Notes.
283	283	So in that sense	L282		Note.
284	284	Little confirmations of 282	L282
285	285	I have to face something			Note.
286	286	Dialogue: Yesterday, Hiram Haydn			Note.
287	287	Word echoes: Go, man, go
288	288	Bob Lindner is in the dramatic			Note.
289	289	Let me try 283 again	L283		Note.
290	290	Now I come back
291	291	The all-out Marxist
292	292	Now, back to 290	L290, L395 (in note)		Note.
293	293	I’m getting exhausted
294	294	One takes in order to understand
295	295	But wrestlers who are givers
296	296	Talk is cheap, action is hard
297	297	Jokes. Argo.
298	298	No wonder I’ve always been
299	299	Back to x Jargon
300	300	B is the first consonant
301	301	Infant and I am faint
302	302	Ant and and
303	303	Obscenities: 69
304	304	Jazz. Z and s are sibling components
305	305	At this moment I’m sick
306	306	But what a compulsion	L305
307	307	I’m getting weary			Note.
308	308	Fuck, piss, cock, shit, cunt
309	309	I have heard writers say
310	310	When I was a kid			Note.
311	311	My pompous man again
312	312	It seems obvious that insanity
313	313	Word echoes. Job
314	314	Aristocrats are usually takers

January 27, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
315	315	As was evident in the notes
316	316	But what is also interesting
317	317	What I distrust of course.
318	318	On the positive side
319	319	Letter echoes: Be
320	320	For some time I have wanted			Note.
321	321	The business of putting
322	322	Corollary. Whenever one reads

January 31, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
323	323	My birthday today
324	324	A few word echoes
325	325	Give-and-take
326	326	The possibility of other			Notes.
327	327	The voice of radio and recordings
328	328	But, carry this a step further
329	329	One’s own voice
330	330	One other observation
331	331	Mimics are always psychopaths
332	332	Last week I wrote	Search		Note.
333	333	I have the feeling these days			How should the 3rd sentence read?
334	334	A great deal of this journal
335	335	Jealousy. But what a mountain
336	336	The cynic
337	337	The conservatism of the female
338	338	Word echoes. Breath, stripped
339	339	Exceptional people			Notes.
340	340	Which brings me to Bob Lidner			Note.
341	341	Page 100
342	342	Stimulants. My ideas which started
343	343	Fascination keeps us on
344	344	What I neglected to say
345	345	Half-way stations
346	346	Journalists—another variety of psychopath
347	347	An interesting confirmation
348	348	Pro and con—prick and cunt
349	349	The Catholic Church
350	350	Word echoes. The and he
351	350A	Word mirrors:
352	351	I cannot say it often enough			Should “od” be corrected?
353	352	Horse-racing. An article			Note.
354	353	Word echoes: Defense
355	354	Word echoes. Good, God
356	355	Good. Go to d, Go
357	356	Modern painting
358	357	The key to Bill Styron’s nature			Note.
359	358	The inter-fecundation is starting
360	359	Which gives an insight into
361	360	I am always inept at arguing
362	361	More typing errors deliver
363	362	God and Jehovah, goal and jail
364	363	Word echo: By—By
365	364	A lot of this is probably
366	365	A corroborating proof
367	366	The reformer’s liberal ideas
368	367	Nat Halper. His work on the Joyce			Note.
369	368	Modern art. Liberals, social democrats
370	369	Elena is a failure
371	370	Cancer. I believe instinctively
372	371	For The Deer Park
373	372	Word echoes: If and Is
374	373	I wrote the last note
375	374	Consonant echoes: X
376	375	The cross was where man
377	376	Adele’s qualities
378	377	The voice
379	378	A note on my Self-Analysis			Notes. Is “sociismus” supposed to be “socialismus” (socialism)?
380	379	Word echoes. Son and sun
381	380	What-the-hell
382	381	Word echoes. Her and err
383	382	What I am doing with letters
384	383	Is W the world?
385	384	Son of a bitch
386	385	Simply, directly, I excited
387	386	Once in a while
388	387	f and v. F is fuck
389	388	I’m getting a little tired now
390	389	Anyway, I think I’ll finish			Notes.

February 1, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
391	390	Today makes two months
392	391	Last night, having dinner
393	392	Later, today, if I can
394	393	What appears to me right
395	394	Word echoes. (I suppose
396	395	Another word echo here
397	396	The Burglar again
398	397	Disagreeable as it is			Notes.
399	398	I suppose the last note
400	399	To finish note 390	390		Notes.
401	400	One addition to this
402	401	Back from lunch
403	402	A comment on the above	402
404	403	At the other end			Note.
405	404	The Catholic would argue			Note.
406	405	I may have a clue
407	406	Word echoes. I’ve discussed jazz
408	407	If my identification of red
409	408	Gate. And r: Great.
410	409	The strength of the Church.			Note.
411	410	A note on my father.			Note.
412	411	And now I understand Monroe			Note.
413	412	On how I can’t destroy love.			Note.
414	413	One thing bothers me.
415	414	A lay analyst.
416	415	I have a hunch
417	416	My sexual scar.
418	417	Depression is coming on
419	418	Perhaps the sexual explanation
420	419	Jesus, I’d rather be
421	420	A little interesting and
422	421	Decadence. I wonder
423	422	The above note was written	422
424	423	Echoes and opposites.
425	424	The spectrum of the saint-psychopath.			Note.
426	425	The above not ought	425
427	426	Before I quit, I want to list

February 2, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
428	427	Continuing on H
429	428	The horrible thought occurs
430	429	The artist and his paranoia.
431	430	Note 214 was about the	215
432	431	It is really incredible that
433	432	Each of the Church’s dictums
434	433	The gambler’s debt
435	434	I’ve spent the last few hours			Notes. Where should the open parenthesis end? I don’t see the last sentence in the original.

Questions

1. What do we want to do with omitted entry numbers? Just skip them? Or should they be included in the digital version but not the printed?
2. Are the numbers on Donna’s transcript the new, correct numbers? (I know Mike said that Mailer mis-numbered some entries.)
3. Should each entry date have its own index page? Perhaps each numbered entry could be summarized here?
4. Should each numbered entry should have its own (sub)page? I think yes.
5. Should each numbered entry have a title other than a number? Each could have a shortcut, so if the title is Lipton’s Journal/December 1, 1954/1, the shortcut could be LJ1 or just L1.
6. Should we categorize numbered entries? Thematically? Style of entry?