Talk:Lipton’s Journal

Entry Dates

December 1, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
1	1	Perhaps the artist is less
2	2	Lipton's seems to open one
3	3	Fucking is perhaps an approach
4	4	In relation to (1)	L1		Note.
5	5	The concentration camp novel	x		Note. Unclear x-ref # in note.
6	6	One should always listen attentively			Note.
7	7	Herbert A[ptheker]. said of Lipton’s			Note.
8	8	In modern jazz, one feels			Note.
9	9	Thoreau’s beautiful remark			Note.
10	10	I upset Herbert [Aptheker] by saying
11	11	In a short novel		x	Note.

December 8, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
12	12	One should always try to		x
13	13	It seems to me that
14	14	It is possible that many			Note.
15	15	All of my life with Adele
16	16	If there is that other world
17	17	Listening to a child
18	18	I advertise to everyone
19	19	Six and Four are close
20	20	Knowledge is systematized ignorance
21	21	A novel is slowly emerging
22	22	It may be that the
23	23	In the conc. camp novel	L17
24	24	There may actually be such
25	25	Every word sets up	L24		Note.
26	26	Television may have some extraordinary			Note.
27	27	Possibly the spasmodic nervous system
28	28	Vomiting may be the orgasm
29	29	No saint can be a teacher
30	30	Infants may be enormously wise
31	31	The saint and the psychopath			Note.
32	32	No one is more unreligious
33	33	Medicine may be witchcraft			end: [and] its emphasis on progress.
34	34	The aggressive instinct
35	35	Psychoanalysis, liberalism, etc. etc.
36	36	I have learned more from
37	37	In The Deer Park after the			Note.
38	38	If the more saintly people
39	39	In a Collier’s article			Note.
40	40	Words are not entirely bad
41	41	Death may be the price
42	42	I know nothing about semantics
43	43	Talk with Rhoda L.			Note.

December 17, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
44	44	The saint and the churchman
45	45	There is no death-instinct
46	46	What worries me today
47	47	Spengler is a great writer	L48		Notes.
48	48	Swing in jazz is different
49	49	When Susie speaks of “war”
50	50	There is a lesson for me	L47
51	51	A remark on why psychoanalysts
52	52	When the businessman thinks
53	53	Perhaps the reason Susy			Note.
54	54	I understand now what Danny			Notes.
55	55	The word is a flat
56	56	In the larger sense			Note.
57	57	The Stalinists have sneered			Note.
58	58	My characters in The Deer Park
59	58	Equations: Man is born			Added punctuation in ¶3.
60	59	The big novel could			Note.
61	60	I learned a practical matter
62	61	I have always hated sentimentality
63	62	The measurement of time
64	63	Advertising and television and radio			Note.
65	64	Because the desire for material
66	65	Almost always experts can never

December 28, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
67	66	At its best, my mind
68	67	Over and over again

December 29, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
69	68	“Vested interest” is enormously more
70	69	Get beneath words		x	Partial cut.
71	70	The gossip is the great
72	71	Words have not only echoes
73	72	The concealments of language
74	73	The sensual is the soul’s
75	74	The Sense of the Past
76	75	There are two kinds of hatred
77	76	The power of the word			Note.
78	77	They key to Sergius’ character
79	78	The breakup with Lulu			Note.
80	79	Jokes. Charley Wiener just said		x	Note needed?: Charley Wiener
81	80	Eitel in court		x	Note.
82	81	In error there is also truth
83	82	Eitel and Elena—last chapter			Note. Use partial w/ L81, too.
84	83	Don Beda			Note.
85	84	Interpretations of present events			Notes.
86	85	My feeling about semantics	L42		Note.
87	86	One thing must be said	L85, L71
88	87	Stories of dreams		x
89	88	Bombing as the great shitting		x
90	89	Comedians and comic writers		x
91	90	Women who always hate
92	91	The more knowledge
93	92	Possibly, bad works of art		x
94	93	The spy (another adventurer)			Note.
95	94	Actors and spies
96	95	When a friend says		x
97	96	“Am I boring you?”
98	97	So, boredom, depression, laughter
99	98	Saints and psychopaths
100	99	Laughter is spiritual
101	100	The psychopath sees the present
102	101	So the hipster is the adventurer
103	102	Given my intellectual verbal mind
104	103	A possibility occurs to me			Note.
105	104	Marion Faye note
106	105	Note 103 could be	L103		Could the x-ref actually be L105?
107	106	Marion Faye note			Note.
108	107	Marion Faye on Eitel
109	108	Marion Faye in prison
110	109	Sergius is my brother
111	110	Marion F Journal
112	111	My journal again
113	112	False humility		x	Seems like this should not be cut, as L115 alludes to it.
114	113	Marion Faye journal
115	114	(My journal) Arrogance
116	115	Humor is more than wit
117	116	Marion Faye’s note		x
118	117	Man may be terrible		x
119	118	The fear of being ridiculous
120	119	Toward the end of Marion		x
121	120	Marion Faye’s note about		x
122	121	Any art-work which
123	122	“Do you know, Sergius?”
124	123	Dorothea O’Faye could figure

December 31, 1954

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
125	124	I am getting whole bodies
126	125	Thoughts. All thoughts in words			Note.
127	126	People who make love
128	127	Get a tape recorder			Note. [add tea time info] still needed
129	128	Word echoes: We have
130	129	On the understanding of genius
131	130	Word echoes. Mother and smother
132	131	Seriously, truly, just simply
133	132	In Marion Faye’s journal		x
134	133	Jazz is more creative
135	134	I used to be outwardly
136	135	Years ago, working with Malaquais		x
137	136	The world allows us to express
138	137	My ambition remains
139	138	I think that the new
140	139	Sexual psychopathy would be normal			Note.
141	140	What I learn about The Deer Park
142	141	Most celebrities are people
143	142	Marion Faye’s journal
144	143	Anyone reading these notes
145	144	At the point where Eitel
146	145	The universe is a vast puzzle
147	146	In N.Y. if we want			Note.
148	147	Time is the sense of society
149	148	The so-called decadent writers
150	149	Wild thought. The atom bomb			Note.
151	150	Don Beda should be
152	151	What Stalinists see
153	152	Don Beda should be
154	153	Time as the sense of society			Hand-written note not included.
155	154	Bob Lindner. As he reads			Notes.
156	155	The homo-erotic corollary			Notes.
157	156	The corollary of this			Note.
158	157	What courage Adele has			Notes.
159	158	What terrifies me is exactly
160	159	The fuck novel, “Antacid Analgesique.”			Note.

January 3, 1955

#	NM#	First Words	x-Refs	Cut	Notes
161	160	If this record is to have
162	161	One of the curious effects
163	162	What I dislike so much
164	163	Perhaps a man kills
165	164	With Marion Faye this took		x
166	165	A psychopath expands
167	166	Any human scene
168	167	Precise speech appeals
169	168	Our fear of ghosts
170	169	On the other hand
171	170	The sensitivity spectrum			Note.
172	171	Does telepathic mean sick telepathy?		x
173	172	On television, many of the ads
174	173	There is also the possibility
175	174	Listening to Dizzy Gillespie			Note.
176	175	Word echoes		x
177	176	I suspect that an index
178	177	Psychopathic love
179	178	Consider whether Elena after
180	179	Sports and sex
181	180	Musicians. The saxophonist
182	181	Steve Allen talking while			Note.
183	182	I heard “The Star-Spangled Banner”
184	183	Competition of personality marks
185	184	Name for a Negro
186	185	Be-bop chorus
187	186	We may all have a social			Notes.
188	187	Perhaps the secret			Note.
189	188	This is the age
190	189	Memory may be a layer			Mailer underlined the first two sentences and wrote “Expand” in the margin.
191	190	There’s no such thing
192	191	How do you like my		x
193	192	Fatty foods are cunt foods		x
194	193	Bob told the pickle factory joke
195	194	Obscenity substitutes		x
196	195	Obscenity echoes
197	196	In Barbary Shore I planted		x

Questions

1. What do we want to do with omitted entry numbers? Just skip them? Or should they be included in the digital version but not the printed?
2. Are the numbers on Donna’s transcript the new, correct numbers? (I know Mike said that Mailer mis-numbered some entries.)
3. Should each entry date have its own index page? Perhaps each numbered entry could be summarized here?
4. Should each numbered entry should have its own (sub)page? I think yes.
5. Should each numbered entry have a title other than a number? Each could have a shortcut, so if the title is Lipton’s Journal/December 1, 1954/1, the shortcut could be LJ1 or just L1.
6. Should we categorize numbered entries? Thematically? Style of entry?