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Welcome to the digital Humanities project, ''AAD'' Expanded. This page will facilitate the discussion on the development of this project, beginning in the spring of 2019.

==Purview==
This project aims to create a critical and cultural context around the composition and subsequent reaction to [[Norman Mailer]]’s novel ''[[An American Dream]]''. It will begin with [[J. Michael Lennon]]’s 2004 ''Norman Mailer's Letters on ''An American Dream'', 1963–1969''. Additional interviews, reviews, essays, and miscellany will be added as they are collected, permissions cleared, and digitized.

==Access==
Participation requires:

# '''An account on Project Mailer'''. This cannot be created by users, but must be done by the editor, [[Gerald R. Lucas]]. [[grl:Contact|Send him an email]] requesting an account (please include the username you would like).
# '''Access to original documents'''. Original documents are stored on [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GGktIf5f9wvHRjf-uKi2oCQkWAP1S5d0?usp=sharing Google Drive]. Please request access using your Google account. There will be numerous source documents we will be working with on this project.

==To Do==
See the to-do list on the talk page for ''[[AAD:Letters|Norman Mailer's Letters on ''An American Dream'', 1963–1969]]''.

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==Discussion==
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{{reply to|grlucas}} Link to my PM Sandbox. Please give feedback when you can and let me know if I have linked this to the wrong location. Thanks! [[User:Dmcgonagill/sandbox|Dmcgonagill/sandbox for PM]]([[User:Dmcgonagill|Dmcgonagill]] ([[User talk:Dmcgonagill|talk]]) 12:43, 30 March 2019 (UTC))
::{{reply to|grlucas}} My article is ready to be moved from my sandbox to PM. Am I supposed to move it or are you supposed to review it and then move it?--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 17:53, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
:::{{reply to| Dillbug}} OK, looking good, but it's not quite ready. All citations should be formatted correctly using the citation templates for whatever it is you're citing, like a [[Template:Cite_book|book]] or [[w:Template:Cite_journal|journal article]]. Simply cut and paste the template and fill in the info for each reference (many can already be found on the site's [[Criticism|crit bibliography]]). Use [[Existentialism, Violent Liberation, and Racialized Masculinities: Norman Mailer’s “The White Negro” and An American Dream|McKinley's article]] as a guide. The notice up top does not really make sense, either. Next, you need to convert all parenthetical citations to [[Template:Sfn|shortened footnotes]]. Again, use the McKinley article for your reference. I'll do one or two for you as an example. Finally, I see some typos. Be sure you proof it well. Thanks. (I fixed the beginning for you and gave you some examples to work with.) —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 21:25, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

{{reply to|Grlucas}} Dr. Lucas, I tried to add two articles from the Misc. drive and am having issues with getting the image. I am going to continue to try and add the images.--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 18:28, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

{{reply to|Grlucas}} I have attempted to post a review, an article to the Gallery, and a Snippet. Please advise if I have done so correctly. I would like to do more but do not want to until I am sure I am on the right track.--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 16:57, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to| Dillbug}} Looking good. I cleaned up the language a bit. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 07:51, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
{{reply to|Grlucas}} Please take a look at the news paper review by William F. Buckley, Jr. at [[User:Dillbug/sandbox.review#Sort_of_Conservative]] and see if the review is ready to be moved to the main page. Thank you.--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 20:22, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to| Dillbug}} Check spelling of his name. Mailer should only be linked once — usually the first time he is mentioned. Otherwise, proofread and it looks good. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 07:51, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
::{{reply to|Grlucas}} I have made the necessary corrections. I do believe, the article is now ready to be moved. Do you want me to try to move it, or will you?--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 11:59, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

{{reply to |grlucas}} Feeling ready to post this review or edit with further direction or model from you on desired formatting. Please take a look and advise. Thanks! [[User:Dmcgonagill/sandbox/review]] ~~([[User:Dmcgonagill|Dmcgonagill]] ([[User talk:Dmcgonagill|talk]]) 12:01, 17 April 2019 (EDT))

{{reply to |grlucas}} I uploaded envelope from misc folder but due to lack of access to a pdf convertor, it stays in that form and appears to be of little value on Wiki. Searched internet for work arounds but found nothing. I'm leaving upload but not adding it to gallery. Please advise. Thanks! ~~([[User:Dmcgonagill|Dmcgonagill]] ([[User talk:Dmcgonagill|talk]]) 14:51, 17 April 2019 (EDT))
:{{reply to| Dmcgonagill}} Yes, that's right. I would have to install the PDF viewer here. Do you think I should? —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 19:52, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
::{{reply to|grlucas}} Yes, please. Increased group contribution would result. Thank you! ~~([[User:Dmcgonagill|Dmcgonagill]] ([[User talk:Dmcgonagill|talk]]) 09:07, 18 April 2019 (EDT))
:::{{reply to| Dmcgonagill}} OK, but give me a bit of time. I'll get to is ASAP. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 10:42, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

== ''MR'' Articles for this Project ==

These are available in the shared Google drive under ''Mailer Review''.
* Vol 3: Laist: “''An American Dream'': American Existentialism”
* Vol 5: Sermeus: “Norman Mailer’s Mythmaking in ''An American Dream'' and ‘The White’”
* Vol 6: McKinley: “Mailer’s Modern Myth: Reexamining Violence and Masculinity in ''An American Dream''”
* Vol 7: Batchelor: “Visions of the American Dream: F. Scott Fitzgerald, Bob Dylan, and Norman Mailer Probe at the Heart of the National Idea”

== Press ==

{{reply to|Dillbug|Dmcgonagill|JVbird|JenniferMGA|Mango Masala|Namir Riptide|Roger C. Byrd|Sherita Sims-Jones|Waebo}} We might be getting some press about our recent contributions to this project. As you know, Project Mailer is an official site of the Norman Mailer Society, so what we do here is important. Mailer’s biographer [[JML|Mike Lennon]] has expressed his appreciation for our efforts and others have shown interest in writing about our project! I just wanted to let you know. I’m putting together a press release about what we’ve accomplished this semester, so be sure we’re finishing up with our best, most conscientious work. Your efforts, as always, are very much appreciated. Thanks for all the hard work and congratulations for a great showing! Let me know below if there's anything you think I should add to the press release. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 20:45, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
: {{reply to|Grlucas}} Excellent news!  -[[User:JVbird|JVbird]] (User talk:JVbird|talk]]) 09:53, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
: {{reply to|grlucas}} Sweet! Mention of quick turn around from beginner to able to contribute to project would be cool. It's pretty amazing the progress.~~([[User:Dmcgonagill|Dmcgonagill]] ([[User talk:Dmcgonagill|talk]]) 09:10, 18 April 2019 (EDT))
::{{reply to| Dmcgonagill}} Indeed, I had planned to mention just that. I’m going to write something for the credits page, too. They may be the same thing. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 10:33, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to|Grlucas}}Wow! I did not realize others would be able to view our work, or even appreciate it. I have so enjoyed these past two weeks, now that I have a better understanding of how to edit in Wikipedia. I am truly going to miss editing Norman Mailer!(I would have never thought I would say such a thing a couple of weeks ago.) This class is so different from any class I have taken in the past and the best part, is your assignments are real world work, where what you do makes a difference. I feel a very real sense of accomplishment. Thank you Dr. Lucas for allowing me to be a part of PM.--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 12:08, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
::{{reply to| Dillbug}} Awesome! You all should feel a sense of accomplishment. Everyone has grown so much in just a few short weeks. I'm proud of all the work we've accomplished. You all should be proud of yourselves, too. And who says you have to stop when the semester ends? I hope you all keep editing, especially on Wikipedia. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 16:00, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to|Grlucas}} Excellent News. Happy to see our work is real world experience. [[User:Sherita Sims-Jones|Sherita Sims-Jones]] ([[User talk:Sherita Sims-Jones|talk]]) 12:54, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to|Grlucas}} Cool beans. Congrats, all. --[[User:Jules Carry|Jules Carry]] ([[User talk:Jules Carry|talk]]) 18:41, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to|Grlucas}} That's very exciting. Everyone should be well chuffed. [[User:Mango Masala|Mango Masala]] ([[User talk:Mango Masala|talk]]) 13:19, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
 
== Gallery Additions ==

All, longer gallery additions should probably have their own pages — like the Buckley review; the long ad that lists excerpts from reviews would also be a good candidate for its own page. We could mostly just make them subpages of [[An American Dream Expanded|''AAD'' Expanded]]. Thanks. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 10:51, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to|Dillbug|Dmcgonagill|JVbird|JenniferMGA|Mango Masala|Namir Riptide|Roger C. Byrd|Sherita Sims-Jones|Waebo}} OK, all these text-heavy additions '''should''' have their own pages. Here's an example: [[An American Dream Expanded/Major Reviews for a Major Novel|Major Reviews]]. I appreciate Dillbug’s enthusiasm here. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 17:48, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
{{reply to|Grlucas}} I have rewritten Book Week article 19650130. It is in my [[User:Dillbug/sandbox_BookWeek|sandbox]]. Please review to see if ready to repost. Thank you.--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 20:38, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to|Dillbug}} You probably should just concentrate on the part of the page that has to do with Mailer. It's only a small section. --[[User:Jules Carry|Jules Carry]] ([[User talk:Jules Carry|talk]]) 13:26, 20 April 2019 (EDT)
::{{Reply to|Jules Carry}}Thank you for the feedback. I edited the picture under the gallery to reflect the changes.--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 18:02, 20 April 2019 (EDT)

== PDFs ==

All, I have tried to install the PDF handler extension for MediaWiki, but my hosting service is missing a crucial piece of software. I'm going to see if they can help, but I would suggest we continue as if we will '''not be able to get PDFs to embed'''. Sorry about that. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 16:23, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to|Grlucas|waebo|Dmcgonagill|Mango Masala}} I am back online, finally, after the storms, and am able to convert one page PDFs to JPGs. Is there a trick to dealing with a multi-page PDF? Every time I try to convert to a JPG, I get separate files instead of one scrolling picture, like the PDF has. Any ideas, anyone? I'm going to try more tomorrow and work on editing as well-[[User:JVbird|JVbird]] ([[User talk:JVbird|talk]]) 19:16, 20 April 2019  (EDT)
::{{reply to|JVbird}} I know little about it - sorry. I'm trying to sort out why the left side of the letter I added is missing. It appears correctly when you click the image, but not when viewing on main page. It appeared correctly in my sandbox. [[User:Mango Masala|Mango Masala]] ([[User talk:Mango Masala|talk]]) 19:33, 20 April 2019 (EDT)
:::{{reply to|Mango Masala}} Isn't that frustrating! I know things like that leave me scratching my head and make me just want to hit some chocolate and do some stress eating! [[User:JVbird|JVbird]] ([[User talk:JVbird|talk]]) 09:56, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
:::{{reply to|Mango Masala}} You did not follow the formatting for the gallery. I fixed it. 😁 —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 10:57, 21 April 2019 (EDT)

== Gallery Clean-Up ==

{{reply to|Dillbug|Dmcgonagill|JVbird|JenniferMGA|Mango Masala|Namir Riptide|Roger C. Byrd|Sherita Sims-Jones|Waebo}} OK, all, the gallery is starting to look a bit crowded. Let's clean it up by:
# getting rid of multi-page images. Link to another page where you can display all the images and a transcript.
# transcribing all longer pieces on their own subpages. (For a guide: see how the Buckley review is done.)
# filing images in their correct sections.

Thanks! —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 11:02, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
:{{reply to|Grlucas}} Will do. Working on editing letters right now and then will move over to the gallery... [[User:JVbird|JVbird]] ([[User talk:JVbird|talk]]) 10:11:14, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
::{{reply to|Grlucas}} I will begin cleaning my submissions up next week and transcribe the longer pieces on their own subpages. I am unclear on what you mean by "filing images in their correct sections".  Which ones are filed in the wrong place? Oh, hope you have a very Happy Easter!--[[User:Dillbug|Dillbug]] ([[User talk:Dillbug|talk]]) 16:25, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
:::{{reply to|Grlucas}} I noticed that there's already an early mock up of the cover, so is the Mock up that I posted a repeat of that mock up? It was on the to do list, but I'll take it off if it's just a repeat.  Going to have to work on the multi-page images. They're giving me trouble, but will figure them out... [[User:JVbird|JVbird]] ([[User talk:JVbird|talk]]) 16:49, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
::::{{reply to| JVbird}} Yes, that mock up image has been posted already. As for multiple-page images: why not just post the first page in the gallery and others on the subpage? {{reply to| Dillbug}} I have already moved some items into other sections. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 07:31, 22 April 2019 (EDT)
::::{{reply to|Grlucas}} I'm also working on figuring out how to update my multipage images.[[User:Sherita Sims-Jones|Sherita Sims-Jones]] ([[User talk:Sherita Sims-Jones|talk]]) 16:57, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
:::::{{reply to|Grlucas|Sherita Sims-Jones}} I also posted some JPGs with multipage images, so I'm going to have to get mine corrected as well. That will have to be tomorrow, though, it looks like. = I have class tonight with my online students and it's been a long day. Sherita, if you figure it out, let me know. I thought I had had a breakthrough with the JPG files, but the multipage idea I had just isn't the solution! [[User:JVbird|JVbird]] ([[User talk:JVbird|talk]]) 17:45, 21 April 2019 (EDT)