Talk:An American Dream Expanded

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Welcome to the digital Humanities project, AAD Expanded. This page will facilitate the discussion on the development of this project, beginning in the spring of 2019.


This project aims to create a critical and cultural context around the composition and subsequent reaction to Norman Mailer’s novel An American Dream. It will begin with J. Michael Lennon’s 2004 Norman Mailer's Letters on An American Dream, 1963–1969. Additional interviews, reviews, essays, and miscellany will be added as they are collected, permissions cleared, and digitized.


Participation requires:

  1. An account on Project Mailer. This cannot be created by users, but must be done by the editor, Gerald R. Lucas. Send him an email requesting an account (please include the username you would like).
  2. Access to original documents. Original documents are stored on Google Drive. Please request access using your Google account. There will be numerous source documents we will be working with on this project.

To Do

See the to-do list on the talk page for Norman Mailer's Letters on An American Dream, 1963–1969.

edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for An American Dream Expanded:

  • All pages should use {{aade-sm}} somewhere on the page. This gives the appropriate categories and a banner about the page’s part on the project
  • Add bibliography entries (Appendix II.doc in Letters directory).
  • Incorporate items in the Misc directory from the shared drive.
    • Add to Gallery. (Everyone could do one of these, at least.)added 1 to gallery and 1 to snippets--Dillbug (talk) 16:29, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
(friends, I'm listing those files in Misc., please sign and strike off when you have uploaded them to PM for ease of recon)~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 19:38, 16 April 2019 (UTC))
  1. 196505 PW Best Sellers --Dillbug (talk) 12:38, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
  2. 19640302--Dillbug (talk) 12:56, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
  3. 19650125 Royalty Statement--Dillbug (talk) 13:33, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
  4. 19650310 Book Week News--Dillbug (talk) 13:40, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
  5. 19650315 Invitation--Dillbug (talk) 13:40, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
  6. 19650316 Advertising Copy--Dillbug (talk) 14:42, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
  7. 19650322 Publishers Weekly Currents--Dillbug (talk) 14:48, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
  8. 19650322 Publishers Weekly I will do this one Sherita Sims-Jones (talk) 11:05, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
  9. 19650401 Herald Tribune~~ waeboWaebo (talk) 15:10, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
  10. 19650403 New Republic--Dillbug (talk) 15:16, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
  11. 19650418 Best Sellers --Dillbug (talk) 11:41, 25 April 2019 (EDT)
  12. 19650514 Envelope~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 13:45, 17 April 2019 (EDT))Friends, I do not have access to a pdf to jpg/png convertor, so I uploaded this but only in pdf and it doesn't seem usable in that form. If you have access or a work around please advice or take and make happenCry.pngThanks! ~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 14:54, 17 April 2019 (EDT))
Dmcgonagill I have a pdf to jpeg file converter. Waebo (talk) 10:13, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
@Waebo: Awesome! You want to convert my envelope one for me then? Or is it something you can share?~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 11:11, 18 April 2019 (EDT))
@Waebo: Thank you Rian! Got the envelope up thanks to you! ~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 09:13, 22 April 2019 (EDT))
@Waebo and Dmcgonagill: I may have to borrow your services too, Rian. I've got several files I'm trying to convert. What program are you using that converts?? JVbird (JVbird|talk) (UTC) 22:02, 19 April 2019
  1. 19650923 Mary Bancroft Letter- I will add Waebo --Waebo (talk) 11:36, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
  2. 20190302_L The New York -I will addDillbug (talk) 18:21, 16 April 2019 (EDT)Dillbug
  3. 20190302_002 ssimsjones (ssimsjones) 23:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
  4. 20190302 Harper's plan ssimsjones (ssimsjones) 23:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
  5. 20190302_there's SOI park ssimsjones (ssimsjones) 23:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
# Cover Mock-up --I will do this one, JVbird JVbird (talk)
# Huffman-Jungian Approach --I will do this one, JVbirdJVbird (talk)
# Saturday Review -I will do this one JVbirdJVbird (talk)
  1. Snippet - I will doDillbug (talk) 18:21, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
  2. Trotter Letter - I will do this one. Mango Masala (talk) 13:01, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
  • Secure permissions for essays.
  • Post full-text essays.
  • Secure permissions for reviews.
  • Post full-text reviews. Working on Didion ~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 23:21, 15 April 2019 (UTC))Working on BuckleyDillbug (talk) 16:29, 16 April 2019 (UTC) Working on Dana, North American Review JVbird JVbird (talk) @Grlucas: Should these full reviews be transcribed or posted as PDF and do we need to secure permission? Thanks, JVbird (talk) (UTC)
# Huffman-Jungian Approach --I will do this one, JVbird JVbird (talk)
# Saturday Review -I will do this one JVbirdJVbird (talk)
  1. Nichols-NYT -I will work on this one waebowaebo ( talk)
  • Add notes and other research, like identifying important people, events, publications, etc.
    • Links to Wikipedia when appropriate.
  • Post credits. (I'll do this near the project’s completion. —Grlucas (talk) 17:21, 5 April 2019 (UTC))
Priority 2


. . . @Grlucas: Link to my PM Sandbox. Please give feedback when you can and let me know if I have linked this to the wrong location. Thanks! Dmcgonagill/sandbox for PM(Dmcgonagill (talk) 12:43, 30 March 2019 (UTC))

@Grlucas: My article is ready to be moved from my sandbox to PM. Am I supposed to move it or are you supposed to review it and then move it?--Dillbug (talk) 17:53, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
@Dillbug: OK, looking good, but it's not quite ready. All citations should be formatted correctly using the citation templates for whatever it is you're citing, like a book or journal article. Simply cut and paste the template and fill in the info for each reference (many can already be found on the site's crit bibliography). Use McKinley's article as a guide. The notice up top does not really make sense, either. Next, you need to convert all parenthetical citations to shortened footnotes. Again, use the McKinley article for your reference. I'll do one or two for you as an example. Finally, I see some typos. Be sure you proof it well. Thanks. (I fixed the beginning for you and gave you some examples to work with.) —Grlucas (talk) 21:25, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Grlucas: Dr. Lucas, I tried to add two articles from the Misc. drive and am having issues with getting the image. I am going to continue to try and add the images.--Dillbug (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

@Grlucas: I have attempted to post a review, an article to the Gallery, and a Snippet. Please advise if I have done so correctly. I would like to do more but do not want to until I am sure I am on the right track.--Dillbug (talk) 16:57, 16 April 2019 (EDT)

@Dillbug: Looking good. I cleaned up the language a bit. —Grlucas (talk) 07:51, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

@Grlucas: Please take a look at the news paper review by William F. Buckley, Jr. at User:Dillbug/ and see if the review is ready to be moved to the main page. Thank you.--Dillbug (talk) 20:22, 16 April 2019 (EDT)

@Dillbug: Check spelling of his name. Mailer should only be linked once — usually the first time he is mentioned. Otherwise, proofread and it looks good. —Grlucas (talk) 07:51, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas: I have made the necessary corrections. I do believe, the article is now ready to be moved. Do you want me to try to move it, or will you?--Dillbug (talk) 11:59, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

@Grlucas: Feeling ready to post this review or edit with further direction or model from you on desired formatting. Please take a look and advise. Thanks! User:Dmcgonagill/sandbox/review ~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 12:01, 17 April 2019 (EDT))

@Grlucas: I uploaded envelope from misc folder but due to lack of access to a pdf convertor, it stays in that form and appears to be of little value on Wiki. Searched internet for work arounds but found nothing. I'm leaving upload but not adding it to gallery. Please advise. Thanks! ~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 14:51, 17 April 2019 (EDT))

@Dmcgonagill: Yes, that's right. I would have to install the PDF viewer here. Do you think I should? —Grlucas (talk) 19:52, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas: Yes, please. Increased group contribution would result. Thank you! ~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 09:07, 18 April 2019 (EDT))
@Dmcgonagill: OK, but give me a bit of time. I'll get to is ASAP. —Grlucas (talk) 10:42, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

MR Articles for this Project

These are available in the shared Google drive under Mailer Review.

  • Vol 3: Laist: “An American Dream: American Existentialism”
  • Vol 5: Sermeus: “Norman Mailer’s Mythmaking in An American Dream and ‘The White’”
  • Vol 6: McKinley: “Mailer’s Modern Myth: Reexamining Violence and Masculinity in An American Dream
  • Vol 7: Batchelor: “Visions of the American Dream: F. Scott Fitzgerald, Bob Dylan, and Norman Mailer Probe at the Heart of the National Idea”


@Dillbug, Dmcgonagill, JVbird, JenniferMGA, Mango Masala, Namir Riptide, Roger C. Byrd, Sherita Sims-Jones, and Waebo: We might be getting some press about our recent contributions to this project. As you know, Project Mailer is an official site of the Norman Mailer Society, so what we do here is important. Mailer’s biographer Mike Lennon has expressed his appreciation for our efforts and others have shown interest in writing about our project! I just wanted to let you know. I’m putting together a press release about what we’ve accomplished this semester, so be sure we’re finishing up with our best, most conscientious work. Your efforts, as always, are very much appreciated. Thanks for all the hard work and congratulations for a great showing! Let me know below if there's anything you think I should add to the press release. —Grlucas (talk) 20:45, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

@Grlucas: Excellent news! -JVbird (User talk:JVbird|talk]]) 09:53, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
@Grlucas: Sweet! Mention of quick turn around from beginner to able to contribute to project would be cool. It's pretty amazing the progress.~~(Dmcgonagill (talk) 09:10, 18 April 2019 (EDT))
@Dmcgonagill: Indeed, I had planned to mention just that. I’m going to write something for the credits page, too. They may be the same thing. —Grlucas (talk) 10:33, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas:Wow! I did not realize others would be able to view our work, or even appreciate it. I have so enjoyed these past two weeks, now that I have a better understanding of how to edit in Wikipedia. I am truly going to miss editing Norman Mailer!(I would have never thought I would say such a thing a couple of weeks ago.) This class is so different from any class I have taken in the past and the best part, is your assignments are real world work, where what you do makes a difference. I feel a very real sense of accomplishment. Thank you Dr. Lucas for allowing me to be a part of PM.--Dillbug (talk) 12:08, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
@Dillbug: Awesome! You all should feel a sense of accomplishment. Everyone has grown so much in just a few short weeks. I'm proud of all the work we've accomplished. You all should be proud of yourselves, too. And who says you have to stop when the semester ends? I hope you all keep editing, especially on Wikipedia. —Grlucas (talk) 16:00, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas: Excellent News. Happy to see our work is real world experience. Sherita Sims-Jones (talk) 12:54, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas: Cool beans. Congrats, all. --Jules Carry (talk) 18:41, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas: That's very exciting. Everyone should be well chuffed. Mango Masala (talk) 13:19, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Gallery Additions

All, longer gallery additions should probably have their own pages — like the Buckley review; the long ad that lists excerpts from reviews would also be a good candidate for its own page. We could mostly just make them subpages of AAD Expanded. Thanks. —Grlucas (talk) 10:51, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

@Dillbug, Dmcgonagill, JVbird, JenniferMGA, Mango Masala, Namir Riptide, Roger C. Byrd, Sherita Sims-Jones, and Waebo: OK, all these text-heavy additions should have their own pages. Here's an example: Major Reviews. I appreciate Dillbug’s enthusiasm here. —Grlucas (talk) 17:48, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

@Grlucas: I have rewritten Book Week article 19650130. It is in my sandbox. Please review to see if ready to repost. Thank you.--Dillbug (talk) 20:38, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

@Dillbug: You probably should just concentrate on the part of the page that has to do with Mailer. It's only a small section. --Jules Carry (talk) 13:26, 20 April 2019 (EDT)
@Jules Carry:Thank you for the feedback. I edited the picture under the gallery to reflect the changes.--Dillbug (talk) 18:02, 20 April 2019 (EDT)


All, I have tried to install the PDF handler extension for MediaWiki, but my hosting service is missing a crucial piece of software. I'm going to see if they can help, but I would suggest we continue as if we will not be able to get PDFs to embed. Sorry about that. —Grlucas (talk) 16:23, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

@Grlucas, Waebo, Dmcgonagill, and Mango Masala: I am back online, finally, after the storms, and am able to convert one page PDFs to JPGs. Is there a trick to dealing with a multi-page PDF? Every time I try to convert to a JPG, I get separate files instead of one scrolling picture, like the PDF has. Any ideas, anyone? I'm going to try more tomorrow and work on editing as well-JVbird (talk) 19:16, 20 April 2019 (EDT)
@JVbird: I know little about it - sorry. I'm trying to sort out why the left side of the letter I added is missing. It appears correctly when you click the image, but not when viewing on main page. It appeared correctly in my sandbox. Mango Masala (talk) 19:33, 20 April 2019 (EDT)
@Mango Masala: Isn't that frustrating! I know things like that leave me scratching my head and make me just want to hit some chocolate and do some stress eating! JVbird (talk) 09:56, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
@Mango Masala: You did not follow the formatting for the gallery. I fixed it. 😁 —Grlucas (talk) 10:57, 21 April 2019 (EDT)

Gallery Clean-Up

@Dillbug, Dmcgonagill, JVbird, JenniferMGA, Mango Masala, Namir Riptide, Roger C. Byrd, Sherita Sims-Jones, and Waebo: OK, all, the gallery is starting to look a bit crowded. Let's clean it up by:

  1. getting rid of multi-page images. Link to another page where you can display all the images and a transcript.
  2. transcribing all longer pieces on their own subpages. (For a guide: see how the Buckley review is done.)
  3. filing images in their correct sections.

Thanks! —Grlucas (talk) 11:02, 21 April 2019 (EDT)

@Grlucas: Will do. Working on editing letters right now and then will move over to the gallery... JVbird (talk) 10:11:14, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas: I will begin cleaning my submissions up next week and transcribe the longer pieces on their own subpages. I am unclear on what you mean by "filing images in their correct sections". Which ones are filed in the wrong place? Oh, hope you have a very Happy Easter!--Dillbug (talk) 16:25, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas: I noticed that there's already an early mock up of the cover, so is the Mock up that I posted a repeat of that mock up? It was on the to do list, but I'll take it off if it's just a repeat. Going to have to work on the multi-page images. They're giving me trouble, but will figure them out... JVbird (talk) 16:49, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
@Grlucas: I'm also working on figuring out how to update my multipage images.Sherita Sims-Jones (talk) 16:57, 21 April 2019 (EDT)