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'''BOXING WITH HEMINGWAY'''

So what does it mean to box with another writer? For Hemingway, at least in his youth, the analogy expressed the inevitability of succession. Once a great boxer or writer had lost his crown, there was no reclaiming it. The old must give way to the new. So in 1924 he complained to Ezra Pound that the writers Ford Madox Ford was selecting for transatlantic review were the literary equivalents of Great White Hope Jim Jeffries, dragged out of retirement for one last fight: “''The thing to do with Ford is to kill him.... I am fond of Ford. This ain’t personal. It’s literary''” (''Ernest'' 116). Killing is also what Hemingway envisaged for Sherwood Anderson, reimagined as the has-been heavyweight Ole Andreson in “''The Killers''”; “''a sock on the jaw''” was not enough to settle the score.In an early draft of the story, the fighter was called Nerone; Hemingway changed the name to Anderson and then, finally, to Andreson.

For all that he joshed about minor and major contenders, Mailer’s sense of literary influence was—like everything else in his worldview—less teleological than dialectical, less a matter of drastic, once-and-for-all Oedipal action than a conversation between competing tastes and loyalties (Mailer, ''Pontifications'' 149). To develop as a writer, Mailer did not want to kill Hemingway off so much as to continue to spar with him, while also sparring with (among many others along the way) Henry Miller and Herman Melville. If “''Prelude—I''” of ''The Time of Our Time'' evokes Hemingway, the presiding figure of its concluding “''Acknowledgments and Appreciations''” is Dos Passos, whose 1936 trilogy ''USA'' Mailer once described as “''the most successful portrait of America in the first half of the twentieth century''” (Bruce and Webster 173). Setting up one “''great American author''” (Mailer, ''Pieces'' 87) or “''literary athlete''” (92) against another while, at the same time, looking forward to other juxtapositions—that was what boxing meant to Mailer: a way of exposing the truth that, in the ring or on the page, “''no two Americas will prove identical''” (''Time'' x). Nothing, as he liked to say, “''is settled after all''” (''Pieces'' 86).

===Works Cited===

* {{cite book |last=Algren |first=Nelson |date=1963 |title=Who Lost an American? |publisher=Macmillan |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Anderson |first=Sherwood |date=1933 |title=Death in the Woods and Other Stories |publisher=Liveright |location= |pages=95–108 |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Anderson |first=Sherwood |date=1984 |title=Selected Letters |editor=Charles Modlin |publisher=University of Tennessee Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Apple |first=Max |date=1986 |title=The Oranging of America |publisher=Faber and Faber |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Baker |first=Carlos |date=1969 |title=Ernest Hemingway: A Life Story |publisher=Scribner’s |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Boddy |first=Kasia |date=2008 |title=Boxing: A Cultural History |publisher=Reaktion Books |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Bruccoli |first=Matthew J. |editor-last=Bruccoli |editor-first=Matthew J. |date=1971 |title=Ernest Hemingway’s Apprenticeship: Oak Park, 1916–1917 |publisher=NCR Microcard |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Callaghan |first=Morley E. |date=1963 |title=That Summer in Paris |publisher=Coward-McCann |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Dearborn |first=Mary V. |date=1999 |title=Mailer: A Biography |publisher=Houghton |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Donaldson |first=Scott |date=1999 |title=Hemingway vs. Fitzgerald: The Rise and Fall of a Literary Friendship |publisher=Overlook Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Early |first=Gerald |date=1989 |title=Tuxedo Junction: Essays on American Culture |publisher=Ecco Press |location= |pages=183–195 |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Fiedler |first=Leslie |date=1964 |title=Waiting for the End |publisher=Penguin |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Gunn |first=Peter |date=1972 |title=Byron: Selected Letters and Journals |publisher=Penguin |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Healy |first=Thomas |date=1996 |title=A Hurting Game |publisher=Picador |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Heller |first=Peter |date=1994 |title=In This Corner...! 42 World Champions Tell Their Stories |publisher=Da Capo Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Hemingway |first=Ernest |date=1966 |title=The Short Stories of Ernest Hemingway |publisher=Scribner’s |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Hemingway |first=Ernest |date=1985 |title=Ernest Hemingway: Selected Letters, 1917–1961 |editor-first=Carlos |editor-last=Baker |publisher=Panther |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Hemingway |first=Ernest |date=2009 |title=A Moveable Feast: The Restored Edition |publisher=Scribner’s |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Hemingway |first=Ernest |date=1976 |title=The Sun Also Rises |publisher=Flamingo |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Inglis |first=David L. |date=1974 |title=Morley Callaghan and the Hemingway Boxing Legend |publisher=Notes on Contemporary Literature |location= |pages=4–7 |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Kazin |first=Alfred |date=1973 |title=Bright Book of Life |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Lennon |first=J. Michael |date=2003 |title=The Spooky Art: Some Thoughts on Writing |publisher=Random House |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Liebling |first=A. J. |date=1982 |title=The Sweet Science |publisher=Penguin |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1959 |title=Advertisements for Myself |publisher=G.P. Putnam’s Sons |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1965 |title=An American Dream |publisher=Dial Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1968 |title=The Armies of the Night |publisher=New American Library |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1966 |title=Cannibals and Christians |publisher=Dial Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1955 |title=The Deer Park |publisher=G.P. Putnam’s Sons |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1972 |title=Existential Errands |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1975 |title=The Fight |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1991 |title=Harlot’s Ghost |publisher=Random House |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1973 |title=Marilyn |publisher=Grosset & Dunlap |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1971 |title=King of the Hill |publisher=New American Library |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1982 |title=Pieces and Pontifications |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1963 |title=The Presidential Papers |publisher=G.P. Putnam’s Sons |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1971 |title=The Prisoner of Sex |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1998 |title=The Time of Our Time |publisher=Random House |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=2006 |title=The Big Empty |publisher=Nation Books |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Messenger |first=Christian |date=1987 |title=Norman Mailer: Boxing and the Art of His Narrative |publisher=Modern Fiction Studies |location= |pages=85–104 |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Michaels |first=Walter Benn |date=1995 |title=Our America |publisher=Duke University Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Monteiro |first=George |date=1990 |title=This is My Pal Bugs: Ernest Hemingway’s “The Battler” |editor=Jackson J. Benson |publisher=Duke UP |location= |pages=224–228 |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Oates |first=Joyce Carol |date=1988 |title=The Hemingway Mystique |publisher=E. B. Dutton |location= |pages=301–309 |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Oates |first=Joyce Carol |date=1974 |title=New Heaven, New Earth |publisher=Vanguard Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Oates |first=Joyce Carol |date=1988 |title=On Boxing |publisher=Pan |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Oates |first=Joyce Carol |date=1988 |title=Our Private Lives |editor=Daniel Halpern |publisher=Ecco Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Poirier |first=Richard |date=1972 |title=Mailer |publisher=Fontana |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Roberts |first=Randy |date=1986 |title=Papa Jack: Jack Johnson and the Era of White Hopes |publisher=Robson Books |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=St. John |first=Bruce |date=1965 |title=John Sloan’s New York Scene |publisher=Harper |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

* {{cite book |last=Weatherby |first=W. J. |date=1977 |title=Squaring-Off: Mailer v. Baldwin |publisher=Robson Books |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}

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 '''BOXING WITH HEMINGWAY'''
 So what does it mean to box with another writer? For Hemingway, at least in his youth, the analogy expressed the inevitability of succession. Once a great boxer or writer had lost his crown, there was no reclaiming it. The old must give way to the new. So in 1924 he complained to Ezra Pound that the writers Ford Madox Ford was selecting for transatlantic review were the literary equivalents of Great White Hope Jim Jeffries, dragged out of retirement for one last fight: “''The thing to do with Ford is to kill him.... I am fond of Ford. This ain’t personal. It’s literary''” (''Ernest'' 116). Killing is also what Hemingway envisaged for Sherwood Anderson, reimagined as the has-been heavyweight Ole Andreson in “''The Killers''”; “''a sock on the jaw''” was not enough to settle the score.In an early draft of the story, the fighter was called Nerone; Hemingway changed the name to Anderson and then, finally, to Andreson.
+For all that he joshed about minor and major contenders, Mailer’s sense of literary influence was—like everything else in his worldview—less teleological than dialectical, less a matter of drastic, once-and-for-all Oedipal action than a conversation between competing tastes and loyalties (Mailer, ''Pontifications'' 149). To develop as a writer, Mailer did not want to kill Hemingway off so much as to continue to spar with him, while also sparring with (among many others along the way) Henry Miller and Herman Melville. If “''Prelude—I''” of ''The Time of Our Time'' evokes Hemingway, the presiding figure of its concluding “''Acknowledgments and Appreciations''” is Dos Passos, whose 1936 trilogy ''USA'' Mailer once described as “''the most successful portrait of America in the first half of the twentieth century''” (Bruce and Webster 173). Setting up one “''great American author''” (Mailer, ''Pieces'' 87) or “''literary athlete''” (92) against another while, at the same time, looking forward to other juxtapositions—that was what boxing meant to Mailer: a way of exposing the truth that, in the ring or on the page, “''no two Americas will prove identical''” (''Time'' x). Nothing, as he liked to say, “''is settled after all''” (''Pieces'' 86).
+===Works Cited===
+{{Refbegin}}
+* {{cite book |last=Algren |first=Nelson |date=1963 |title=Who Lost an American? |publisher=Macmillan |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Anderson |first=Sherwood |date=1933 |title=Death in the Woods and Other Stories |publisher=Liveright |location= |pages=95–108 |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Anderson |first=Sherwood |date=1984 |title=Selected Letters |editor=Charles Modlin |publisher=University of Tennessee Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Apple |first=Max |date=1986 |title=The Oranging of America |publisher=Faber and Faber |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Baker |first=Carlos |date=1969 |title=Ernest Hemingway: A Life Story |publisher=Scribner’s |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Boddy |first=Kasia |date=2008 |title=Boxing: A Cultural History |publisher=Reaktion Books |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Bruccoli |first=Matthew J. |editor-last=Bruccoli |editor-first=Matthew J. |date=1971 |title=Ernest Hemingway’s Apprenticeship: Oak Park, 1916–1917 |publisher=NCR Microcard |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Callaghan |first=Morley E. |date=1963 |title=That Summer in Paris |publisher=Coward-McCann |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Dearborn |first=Mary V. |date=1999 |title=Mailer: A Biography |publisher=Houghton |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Donaldson |first=Scott |date=1999 |title=Hemingway vs. Fitzgerald: The Rise and Fall of a Literary Friendship |publisher=Overlook Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Early |first=Gerald |date=1989 |title=Tuxedo Junction: Essays on American Culture |publisher=Ecco Press |location= |pages=183–195 |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Fiedler |first=Leslie |date=1964 |title=Waiting for the End |publisher=Penguin |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Gunn |first=Peter |date=1972 |title=Byron: Selected Letters and Journals |publisher=Penguin |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Healy |first=Thomas |date=1996 |title=A Hurting Game |publisher=Picador |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Heller |first=Peter |date=1994 |title=In This Corner...! 42 World Champions Tell Their Stories |publisher=Da Capo Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Hemingway |first=Ernest |date=1966 |title=The Short Stories of Ernest Hemingway |publisher=Scribner’s |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Hemingway |first=Ernest |date=1985 |title=Ernest Hemingway: Selected Letters, 1917–1961 |editor-first=Carlos |editor-last=Baker |publisher=Panther |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Hemingway |first=Ernest |date=2009 |title=A Moveable Feast: The Restored Edition |publisher=Scribner’s |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Hemingway |first=Ernest |date=1976 |title=The Sun Also Rises |publisher=Flamingo |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Inglis |first=David L. |date=1974 |title=Morley Callaghan and the Hemingway Boxing Legend |publisher=Notes on Contemporary Literature |location= |pages=4–7 |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Kazin |first=Alfred |date=1973 |title=Bright Book of Life |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Lennon |first=J. Michael |date=2003 |title=The Spooky Art: Some Thoughts on Writing |publisher=Random House |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Liebling |first=A. J. |date=1982 |title=The Sweet Science |publisher=Penguin |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1959 |title=Advertisements for Myself |publisher=G.P. Putnam’s Sons |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1965 |title=An American Dream |publisher=Dial Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1968 |title=The Armies of the Night |publisher=New American Library |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1966 |title=Cannibals and Christians |publisher=Dial Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1955 |title=The Deer Park |publisher=G.P. Putnam’s Sons |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1972 |title=Existential Errands |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1975 |title=The Fight |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1991 |title=Harlot’s Ghost |publisher=Random House |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1973 |title=Marilyn |publisher=Grosset & Dunlap |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1971 |title=King of the Hill |publisher=New American Library |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1982 |title=Pieces and Pontifications |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1963 |title=The Presidential Papers |publisher=G.P. Putnam’s Sons |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1971 |title=The Prisoner of Sex |publisher=Little, Brown & Co. |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=1998 |title=The Time of Our Time |publisher=Random House |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Mailer |first=Norman |date=2006 |title=The Big Empty |publisher=Nation Books |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Messenger |first=Christian |date=1987 |title=Norman Mailer: Boxing and the Art of His Narrative |publisher=Modern Fiction Studies |location= |pages=85–104 |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Michaels |first=Walter Benn |date=1995 |title=Our America |publisher=Duke University Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Monteiro |first=George |date=1990 |title=This is My Pal Bugs: Ernest Hemingway’s “The Battler” |editor=Jackson J. Benson |publisher=Duke UP |location= |pages=224–228 |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Oates |first=Joyce Carol |date=1988 |title=The Hemingway Mystique |publisher=E. B. Dutton |location= |pages=301–309 |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Oates |first=Joyce Carol |date=1974 |title=New Heaven, New Earth |publisher=Vanguard Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Oates |first=Joyce Carol |date=1988 |title=On Boxing |publisher=Pan |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Oates |first=Joyce Carol |date=1988 |title=Our Private Lives |editor=Daniel Halpern |publisher=Ecco Press |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Poirier |first=Richard |date=1972 |title=Mailer |publisher=Fontana |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Roberts |first=Randy |date=1986 |title=Papa Jack: Jack Johnson and the Era of White Hopes |publisher=Robson Books |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=St. John |first=Bruce |date=1965 |title=John Sloan’s New York Scene |publisher=Harper |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+* {{cite book |last=Weatherby |first=W. J. |date=1977 |title=Squaring-Off: Mailer v. Baldwin |publisher=Robson Books |location= |pages= |ref=harv }}
+{{Refbegin}}