Arnold Kemp, December 18, 1964 - Revision history

JVbird: links to Nobel Prize in literature and Life (magazine)

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links to Nobel Prize in literature and Life (magazine)

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	The last time I wrote to you I thought I was done with the book, but in fact the galleys came back and I saw little sentences here and there that I could improve, so I made some changes. The result: the book will not be out until March. But I’ve got you on the list, and will send you a copy as soon as they’re ready, which ought to be sometime in early February.		The last time I wrote to you I thought I was done with the book, but in fact the galleys came back and I saw little sentences here and there that I could improve, so I made some changes. The result: the book will not be out until March. But I’ve got you on the list, and will send you a copy as soon as they’re ready, which ought to be sometime in early February.

	You know, when Sartre<ref>The existentialism of [[w:Jean-Paul Sartre\|Jean-Paul Sartre]] interested Mailer and he wrote about it in both ''[[Advertisements for Myself]]'' and ''[[The Presidential Papers]]'', although Sartre’s existentialism is distinguished from Mailer’s by its atheism.</ref> won the Nobel Prize, it’s funny, but we have a different attitude. I think he should have taken it, and the reason I think is that it bugs the bourgeoisie more when people who are against them accept their biggest prizes rather than refuse them. For example, all these years ''Life'' magazine has been calling Jean-Paul Sartre an “apostle of despair.” Now all of a sudden, apostle of despair and Nobel Prize winner. That makes it harder for them to bullshit people. I believe in taking honors because if you use them properly they arm you. Some day if there were something really big going on and one wanted to write a letter to the ''New York Times'', a mean stinging letter, and get it printed, there’d be just that much more leverage.		You know, when Sartre<ref>The existentialism of [[w:Jean-Paul Sartre\|Jean-Paul Sartre]] interested Mailer and he wrote about it in both ''[[Advertisements for Myself]]'' and ''[[The Presidential Papers]]'', although Sartre’s existentialism is distinguished from Mailer’s by its atheism.</ref> won the [[w:Nobel Prize in Literature\|Nobel Prize]], it’s funny, but we have a different attitude. I think he should have taken it, and the reason I think is that it bugs the bourgeoisie more when people who are against them accept their biggest prizes rather than refuse them. For example, all these years [[w:Life (magazine)\|''Life'']] magazine has been calling Jean-Paul Sartre an “apostle of despair.” Now all of a sudden, apostle of despair and Nobel Prize winner. That makes it harder for them to bullshit people. I believe in taking honors because if you use them properly they arm you. Some day if there were something really big going on and one wanted to write a letter to the ''New York Times'', a mean stinging letter, and get it printed, there’d be just that much more leverage.

	You know, another thing I disagree with you on is Goldwater’s rights stand.<ref>Mailer wrote about [[w:Barry Goldwater\|Barry Goldwater]] in his November 1964 ''Esquire'' essay “In the Red Light: A History of the Republican Convention in 1964.”</ref> I do think, believe it or not, that that was the main reason people voted against him. It’s not that white America loves black America, but what you’ve got to understand is that even without love there can still be guilt. There is a kind of gnawing guilt that pervades practically every white man’s attitude by now, a guilt they want to get rid of even though they fear the Negro, and I think they’ve come to the point now where they recognize that the only way to get rid of this guilt or at least begin to get rid of this guilt is to begin to give the Negro some of his basic minimal legal rights, and I think they did react against Goldwater for that reason. At any rate, this election cheered me up. For the first time I began to feel there might be something to this country, that maybe we’re a little more on the ball than not. Because secretly I felt that the first time some real slick bigot like Goldwater came along, he was going to stampede everybody. So for once it wasn’t so bad to know that I was wrong.		You know, another thing I disagree with you on is Goldwater’s rights stand.<ref>Mailer wrote about [[w:Barry Goldwater\|Barry Goldwater]] in his November 1964 ''Esquire'' essay “In the Red Light: A History of the Republican Convention in 1964.”</ref> I do think, believe it or not, that that was the main reason people voted against him. It’s not that white America loves black America, but what you’ve got to understand is that even without love there can still be guilt. There is a kind of gnawing guilt that pervades practically every white man’s attitude by now, a guilt they want to get rid of even though they fear the Negro, and I think they’ve come to the point now where they recognize that the only way to get rid of this guilt or at least begin to get rid of this guilt is to begin to give the Negro some of his basic minimal legal rights, and I think they did react against Goldwater for that reason. At any rate, this election cheered me up. For the first time I began to feel there might be something to this country, that maybe we’re a little more on the ball than not. Because secretly I felt that the first time some real slick bigot like Goldwater came along, he was going to stampede everybody. So for once it wasn’t so bad to know that I was wrong.

Jules Carry: Fixed typo.

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Fixed typo.

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	Dear Arnold.<ref>Kemp met Mailer in Bellevue Hospital where Mailer was under psychiatric observation after he stabbed [[w:Adele Morales\|Adele]] with a penknife on 20 September 1960.</ref>		Dear Arnold,<ref>Kemp met Mailer in Bellevue Hospital where Mailer was under psychiatric observation after he stabbed [[w:Adele Morales\|Adele]] with a penknife on 20 September 1960.</ref>

	The last time I wrote to you I thought I was done with the book, but in fact the galleys came back and I saw little sentences here and there that I could improve, so I made some changes. The result: the book will not be out until March. But I’ve got you on the list, and will send you a copy as soon as they’re ready, which ought to be sometime in early February.		The last time I wrote to you I thought I was done with the book, but in fact the galleys came back and I saw little sentences here and there that I could improve, so I made some changes. The result: the book will not be out until March. But I’ve got you on the list, and will send you a copy as soon as they’re ready, which ought to be sometime in early February.

Jules Carry: Links and italics.

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Links and italics.

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	Dear Arnold<ref>Kemp met Mailer in Bellevue Hospital where Mailer was under psychiatric observation		Dear Arnold.<ref>Kemp met Mailer in Bellevue Hospital where Mailer was under psychiatric observation after he stabbed [[w:Adele Morales\|Adele]] with a penknife on 20 September 1960.</ref>
	after he stabbed Adele with a penknife on 20 September 1960.</ref>,

	The last time I wrote to you I thought I was done with the book, but in fact the galleys came back and I saw little sentences here and there that I could improve, so I made some changes. The result: the book will not be out until March. But I’ve got you on the list, and will send you a copy as soon as they’re ready, which ought to be sometime in early February.		The last time I wrote to you I thought I was done with the book, but in fact the galleys came back and I saw little sentences here and there that I could improve, so I made some changes. The result: the book will not be out until March. But I’ve got you on the list, and will send you a copy as soon as they’re ready, which ought to be sometime in early February.

	You know, when Sartre<ref>The existentialism of Jean-		You know, when Sartre<ref>The existentialism of [[w:Jean-Paul Sartre\|Jean-Paul Sartre]] interested Mailer and he wrote about it in both ''[[Advertisements for Myself]]'' and ''[[The Presidential Papers]]'', although Sartre’s existentialism is distinguished from Mailer’s by its atheism.</ref> won the Nobel Prize, it’s funny, but we have a different attitude. I think he should have taken it, and the reason I think is that it bugs the bourgeoisie more when people who are against them accept their biggest prizes rather than refuse them. For example, all these years ''Life'' magazine has been calling Jean-Paul Sartre an “apostle of despair.” Now all of a sudden, apostle of despair and Nobel Prize winner. That makes it harder for them to bullshit people. I believe in taking honors because if you use them properly they arm you. Some day if there were something really big going on and one wanted to write a letter to the ''New York Times'', a mean stinging letter, and get it printed, there’d be just that much more leverage.
	Paul Sartre ~~(1905~~-~~1980)~~ interested Mailer and he wrote about it in both Advertisements for Myself and The Presidential Papers, although Sartre’s existentialism is distinguished from Mailer’s by its atheism.</ref> won the Nobel Prize, it’s funny, but we have a different attitude. I think he should have taken it, and the reason I think is that it bugs the bourgeoisie more when people who are against them accept their biggest prizes rather than refuse them. For example, all these years Life magazine has been calling Jean-Paul Sartre an “apostle of despair.” Now all of a sudden, apostle of despair and Nobel Prize winner. That makes it harder for them to bullshit people. I believe in taking honors because if you use them properly they arm you. Some day if there were something really big going on and one wanted to write a letter to the New York Times, a mean stinging letter, and get it printed, there’d be just that much more leverage.

	You know, another thing I disagree with you on is ~~[Barry]~~ Goldwater’s<ref>Mailer wrote about Barry Goldwater ~~(1909-1998)~~ in his November 1964 Esquire essay “In the Red Light: A History of the Republican Convention in 1964.”</ref> ~~rights stand.~~ I do think, believe it or not, that that was the main reason people voted against him. It’s not that white America loves black America, but what you’ve got to understand is that even without love there can still be guilt. There is a kind of gnawing guilt that pervades practically every white man’s attitude by now, a guilt they want to get rid of even though they fear the Negro, and I think they’ve come to the point now where they recognize that the only way to get rid of this guilt or at least begin to get rid of this guilt is to begin to give the Negro some of his basic minimal legal rights, and I think they did react against Goldwater for that reason. At any rate, this election cheered me up. For the first time I began to feel there might be something to this country, that maybe we’re a little more on the ball than not. Because secretly I felt that the first time some real slick bigot like Goldwater came along, he was going to stampede everybody. So for once it wasn’t so bad to know that I was wrong.		You know, another thing I disagree with you on is Goldwater’s rights stand.<ref>Mailer wrote about [[w:Barry Goldwater\|Barry Goldwater]] in his November 1964 ''Esquire'' essay “In the Red Light: A History of the Republican Convention in 1964.”</ref> I do think, believe it or not, that that was the main reason people voted against him. It’s not that white America loves black America, but what you’ve got to understand is that even without love there can still be guilt. There is a kind of gnawing guilt that pervades practically every white man’s attitude by now, a guilt they want to get rid of even though they fear the Negro, and I think they’ve come to the point now where they recognize that the only way to get rid of this guilt or at least begin to get rid of this guilt is to begin to give the Negro some of his basic minimal legal rights, and I think they did react against Goldwater for that reason. At any rate, this election cheered me up. For the first time I began to feel there might be something to this country, that maybe we’re a little more on the ball than not. Because secretly I felt that the first time some real slick bigot like Goldwater came along, he was going to stampede everybody. So for once it wasn’t so bad to know that I was wrong.

	I know I can’t get to see your plays, because as I understand you’re not allowed to		I know I can’t get to see your plays, because as I understand you’re not allowed to send them out, but I wish there was a way. I’d like to see the work you’re doing. Merry Christmas for now, ha ha, and happy New Year, yea, yea, yea.
	send them out, but I wish there was a way. I’d like to see the work you’re doing. Merry
	Christmas for now, ha ha, and happy New Year, yea, yea, yea.

	::::::::::::::::::::Best,<br />		::::::::::::::::::::Best,<br />

JenniferMGA: Posted Norman's December 18th Letter to Arnold Kemp

2019-04-13T01:53:51Z

Posted Norman's December 18th Letter to Arnold Kemp

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::::::::::::::::::::142 Columbia Heights<br />
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::::::::::::::::::::December 18, 1964

Dear Arnold<ref>Kemp met Mailer in Bellevue Hospital where Mailer was under psychiatric observation
after he stabbed Adele with a penknife on 20 September 1960.</ref>,

The last time I wrote to you I thought I was done with the book, but in fact the galleys came back and I saw little sentences here and there that I could improve, so I made some changes. The result: the book will not be out until March. But I’ve got you on the list, and will send you a copy as soon as they’re ready, which ought to be sometime in early February.

You know, when Sartre<ref>The existentialism of Jean-
Paul Sartre (1905-1980) interested Mailer and he wrote about it in both Advertisements for Myself and The Presidential Papers, although Sartre’s existentialism is distinguished from Mailer’s by its atheism.</ref> won the Nobel Prize, it’s funny, but we have a different attitude. I think he should have taken it, and the reason I think is that it bugs the bourgeoisie more when people who are against them accept their biggest prizes rather than refuse them. For example, all these years Life magazine has been calling Jean-Paul Sartre an “apostle of despair.” Now all of a sudden, apostle of despair and Nobel Prize winner. That makes it harder for them to bullshit people. I believe in taking honors because if you use them properly they arm you. Some day if there were something really big going on and one wanted to write a letter to the New York Times, a mean stinging letter, and get it printed, there’d be just that much more leverage.

You know, another thing I disagree with you on is [Barry] Goldwater’s<ref>Mailer wrote about Barry Goldwater (1909-1998) in his November 1964 Esquire essay “In the Red Light: A History of the Republican Convention in 1964.”</ref> rights stand. I do think, believe it or not, that that was the main reason people voted against him. It’s not that white America loves black America, but what you’ve got to understand is that even without love there can still be guilt. There is a kind of gnawing guilt that pervades practically every white man’s attitude by now, a guilt they want to get rid of even though they fear the Negro, and I think they’ve come to the point now where they recognize that the only way to get rid of this guilt or at least begin to get rid of this guilt is to begin to give the Negro some of his basic minimal legal rights, and I think they did react against Goldwater for that reason. At any rate, this election cheered me up. For the first time I began to feel there might be something to this country, that maybe we’re a little more on the ball than not. Because secretly I felt that the first time some real slick bigot like Goldwater came along, he was going to stampede everybody. So for once it wasn’t so bad to know that I was wrong.

I know I can’t get to see your plays, because as I understand you’re not allowed to
send them out, but I wish there was a way. I’d like to see the work you’re doing. Merry
Christmas for now, ha ha, and happy New Year, yea, yea, yea.

::::::::::::::::::::Best,<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Norman
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