Talk:Lipton’s Journal

From Project Mailer

Entry Dates

December 1, 1954

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L1 1 Perhaps the artist is less
2 2 Lipton's seems to open one
3 3 Fucking is perhaps an approach
4 4 In relation to (1) L1 Note.
5 5 The concentration camp novel Did You Know? Note. Unclear x-ref # in note.
6 6 One should always listen attentively Note.
7 7 Herbert A[ptheker]. said of Lipton’s Note.
8 8 In modern jazz, one feels Note.
9 9 Thoreau’s beautiful remark Note.
10 10 I upset Herbert [Aptheker] by saying
11 11 In a short novel Unknown-Class article Note.

December 8, 1954

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12 12 One should always try to Unknown-Class article
13 13 It seems to me that
14 14 It is possible that many Note.
15 15 All of my life with Adele
16 16 If there is that other world
17 17 Listening to a child
18 18 I advertise to everyone
19 19 Six and Four are close
20 20 Knowledge is systematized ignorance
21 21 A novel is slowly emerging
22 22 It may be that the
23 23 In the conc. camp novel L17
24 24 There may actually be such
25 25 Every word sets up L24 Note.
26 26 Television may have some extraordinary Note.
27 27 Possibly the spasmodic nervous system
28 28 Vomiting may be the orgasm
29 29 No saint can be a teacher
30 30 Infants may be enormously wise
31 31 The saint and the psychopath Note.
32 32 No one is more unreligious
33 33 Medicine may be witchcraft end: [and] its emphasis on progress.
34 34 The aggressive instinct
35 35 Psychoanalysis, liberalism, etc. etc.
36 36 I have learned more from
37 37 In The Deer Park after the Note.
38 38 If the more saintly people
39 39 In a Collier’s article Note.
40 40 Words are not entirely bad
41 41 Death may be the price
42 42 I know nothing about semantics
43 43 Talk with Rhoda L. Note.

December 17, 1954

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44 44 The saint and the churchman
45 45 There is no death-instinct
46 46 What worries me today
47 47 Spengler is a great writer L48 Notes.
48 48 Swing in jazz is different
49 49 When Susie speaks of “war”
50 50 There is a lesson for me L47
51 51 A remark on why psychoanalysts
52 52 When the businessman thinks
53 53 Perhaps the reason Susy Note.
54 54 I understand now what Danny Notes.
55 55 The word is a flat
56 56 In the larger sense Note.
57 57 The Stalinists have sneered Note.
58 58 My characters in The Deer Park
59 58 Equations: Man is born Added punctuation in ¶3.
60 59 The big novel could Note.
61 60 I learned a practical matter
62 61 I have always hated sentimentality
63 62 The measurement of time
64 63 Advertising and television and radio Note.
65 64 Because the desire for material
66 65 Almost always experts can never

December 28, 1954

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67 66 At its best, my mind
68 67 Over and over again

December 29, 1954

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69 68 “Vested interest” is enormously more
70 69 Get beneath words Unknown-Class article (partial)
71 70 The gossip is the great
72 71 Words have not only echoes
73 72 The concealments of language
74 73 The sensual is the soul’s
75 74 The Sense of the Past
76 75 There are two kinds of hatred
77 76 The power of the word Note.
78 77 They key to Sergius’ character
79 78 The breakup with Lulu Note.
80 79 Jokes. Charley Wiener just said Unknown-Class article Note needed?: Charley Wiener
81 80 Eitel in court Unknown-Class article Note.
82 81 In error there is also truth
83 82 Eitel and Elena—last chapter Note. Use partial w/ L81, too.
84 83 Don Beda Note.
85 84 Interpretations of present events Notes.
86 85 My feeling about semantics L42 Note.
87 86 One thing must be said L85, L71
88 87 Stories of dreams Unknown-Class article
89 88 Bombing as the great shitting Unknown-Class article
90 89 Comedians and comic writers Unknown-Class article
91 90 Women who always hate
92 91 The more knowledge
93 92 Possibly, bad works of art Unknown-Class article
94 93 The spy (another adventurer) Note.
95 94 Actors and spies
96 95 When a friend says Unknown-Class article
97 96 “Am I boring you?”
98 97 So, boredom, depression, laughter
99 98 Saints and psychopaths
100 99 Laughter is spiritual
101 100 The psychopath sees the present
102 101 So the hipster is the adventurer
103 102 Given my intellectual verbal mind
104 103 A possibility occurs to me Note.
105 104 Marion Faye note
106 105 Note 103 could be L103 Could the x-ref actually be L105?
107 106 Marion Faye note Note.
108 107 Marion Faye on Eitel
109 108 Marion Faye in prison
110 109 Sergius is my brother
111 110 Marion F Journal
112 111 My journal again
113 112 False humility Unknown-Class article Seems like this should not be cut, as L115 alludes to it.
114 113 Marion Faye journal
115 114 (My journal) Arrogance
116 115 Humor is more than wit
117 116 Marion Faye’s note Unknown-Class article
118 117 Man may be terrible Unknown-Class article
119 118 The fear of being ridiculous
120 119 Toward the end of Marion Unknown-Class article
121 120 Marion Faye’s note about Unknown-Class article
122 121 Any art-work which
123 122 “Do you know, Sergius?”
124 123 Dorothea O’Faye could figure

December 31, 1954

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125 124 I am getting whole bodies
126 125 Thoughts. All thoughts in words Note.
127 126 People who make love
128 127 Get a tape recorder Note. [add tea time info] still needed
129 128 Word echoes: We have
130 129 On the understanding of genius
131 130 Word echoes. Mother and smother
132 131 Seriously, truly, just simply
133 132 In Marion Faye’s journal Unknown-Class article
134 133 Jazz is more creative
135 134 I used to be outwardly
136 135 Years ago, working with Malaquais Unknown-Class article
137 136 The world allows us to express
138 137 My ambition remains
139 138 I think that the new
140 139 Sexual psychopathy would be normal Note.
141 140 What I learn about The Deer Park
142 141 Most celebrities are people
143 142 Marion Faye’s journal
144 143 Anyone reading these notes
145 144 At the point where Eitel
146 145 The universe is a vast puzzle
147 146 In N.Y. if we want Note.
148 147 Time is the sense of society
149 148 The so-called decadent writers
150 149 Wild thought. The atom bomb Note.
151 150 Don Beda should be
152 151 What Stalinists see
153 152 Don Beda should be
154 153 Time as the sense of society Hand-written note not included.
155 154 Bob Lindner. As he reads Notes.
156 155 The homo-erotic corollary Notes.
157 156 The corollary of this Note.
158 157 What courage Adele has Notes.
159 158 What terrifies me is exactly
160 159 The fuck novel, “Antacid Analgesique.” Note.

January 3, 1955

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161 160 If this record is to have
162 161 One of the curious effects
163 162 What I dislike so much
164 163 Perhaps a man kills
165 164 With Marion Faye this took Unknown-Class article
166 165 A psychopath expands
167 166 Any human scene
168 167 Precise speech appeals
169 168 Our fear of ghosts
170 169 On the other hand
171 170 The sensitivity spectrum Note.
172 171 Does telepathic mean sick telepathy? Unknown-Class article
173 172 On television, many of the ads
174 173 There is also the possibility
175 174 Listening to Dizzy Gillespie Note.
176 175 Word echoes Unknown-Class article
177 176 I suspect that an index
178 177 Psychopathic love
179 178 Consider whether Elena after
180 179 Sports and sex
181 180 Musicians. The saxophonist
182 181 Steve Allen talking while Note.
183 182 I heard “The Star-Spangled Banner”
184 183 Competition of personality marks
185 184 Name for a Negro
186 185 Be-bop chorus
187 186 We may all have a social Notes.
188 187 Perhaps the secret Note.
189 188 This is the age
190 189 Memory may be a layer Mailer underlined the first two sentences and wrote “Expand” in the margin.
191 190 There’s no such thing
192 191 How do you like my Unknown-Class article
193 192 Fatty foods are cunt foods Unknown-Class article
194 193 Bob told the pickle factory joke
195 194 Obscenity substitutes Unknown-Class article
196 195 Obscenity echoes
197 196 In Barbary Shore I planted Unknown-Class article

January 20, 1955

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198 197 The poor drawing Unknown-Class article
199 198 Looking at myself Note.
200 199 This is the age Notes.
201 200 When we run across Note.
202 201 The tragic air of Mexico Note.
203 202 Rich boys are proud
204 203 “Instants” and “moments”
205 204 John Walsh is a homosexual Note. NM wrote “expand” in the margin-left of the last paragraph.
206 205 If I have qualities of genius
207 206 The Perfect Secretary See NM’s written gloss.
208 207 The night Bob spoke Note.
209 208 The affected person Unknown-Class article
210 209 How much real hatred
211 210 What we do on the surface
212 211 Homeostasis may be true Unknown-Class article (partial)
213 212 Our perception of others
214 213 Word echoes. Son is sin

January 24, 1955

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215 214 Word echoes. Possible way
216 215 Friday, Saturday, and Sunday Note.
217 216 To begin with, one Notes.
218 217 How I’m getting to love
219 218 Spies are takers
220 219 Thoughts about The Deer Park Unknown-Class article
221 220 When Elena is first introduced Unknown-Class article
222 221 Wrestlers and boxers
223 222 Homeostasis and sociostasis Note.
224 223 What I have noticed Note.
225 224 My character. I have always Notes.
226 225 Remember: The fear of being
227 226 In The Journal of Marion Faye
228 227 The movement of my writing Should McLeod be glossed?
229 228 I have always been the romantic
230 229 To condemn L205, L228
231 230 Our resistance about changing Note.
232 231 Rojo and ojo
233 232 Man and his dog
234 233 For three years while writing
235 234 Romance and realism Note.
236 235 The saint and the psychopath
237 236 In the saint-psychopath sense
238 237 This is the best day
239 238 I was deeply instinctively right
240 239 Yet the course of human history
241 240 For years, unknowingly
242 241 Bebop. P and B are sibling consonants Notes.
244 243 Golfers are people who take
245 244 Put another way, the sociostatic
246 245 But look at the philosophical
247 246 It also suggests that action
248 247 Which leads me to Note.
249 248 English is so magnificently blunt
250 249 To go back to note 245 L245 Notes.
251 250 Joyful thought
252 251 Children’s eating Note.
253 252 Everybody is both male and female Should NM’s spelling be made consistent: e.g., bi-sexual or bisexual?

January 25, 1955

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254 253 The advances in medicine
255 254 The predictor, the prophet Note.
256 255 The above note L255
257 256 Bob is the dishonest man
258 257 I wonder if one doesn’t
259 258 Typing errors Unknown-Class article
260 259 But I wanted to finish Unknown-Class article (partial) Note.
261 260 What I wrote about Sergius
262 261 This Journal in so far
263 262 I realized so many funny
264 263 Since I started this Journal Notes.
265 264 The sense of time
266 265 Old people don’t slow down
267 266 To continue 265 I wonder L265
268 268 The interesting confirmation L267
269 269 Fed up. We stuff ourselves Unknown-Class article
270 270 Radicals. Particularly socialists
271 271 Prose on wings, tra-la, tra-la L270 Note.
272 272 So, modestly, I see my mission
273 273 Jews hated Hitler violently
274 274 What is a monster? Unknown-Class article

January 26, 1955

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275 275 I am coming to believe
276 276 I have noticed in analytic Note.
277 277 Let me put it this way Should "basis" be "basic" in sentence 1?
278 278 I know now why I
279 279 Clues, mysteries, puns
280 280 In this sense, we are all
281 281 If the above sounds very fancy L280
282 282 Sociostasis and sociostasis Notes.
283 283 So in that sense L282 Note.
284 284 Little confirmations of 282 L282 Unknown-Class article
285 285 I have to face something Note.
286 286 Dialogue: Yesterday, Hiram Haydn Note.
287 287 Word echoes: Go, man, go Unknown-Class article
288 288 Bob Lindner is in the dramatic Note.
289 289 Let me try 283 again L283 Note.
290 290 Now I come back
291 291 The all-out Marxist Unknown-Class article
292 292 Now, back to 290 L290, L395 (in note) Note.
293 293 I’m getting exhausted Unknown-Class article
294 294 One takes in order to understand
295 295 But wrestlers who are givers
296 296 Talk is cheap, action is hard
297 297 Jokes. Argo. Unknown-Class article
298 298 No wonder I’ve always been Unknown-Class article
299 299 Back to x Jargon Unknown-Class article
300 300 B is the first consonant Unknown-Class article
301 301 Infant and I am faint Unknown-Class article
302 302 Ant and and
303 303 Obscenities: 69
304 304 Jazz. Z and s are sibling components
305 305 At this moment I’m sick
306 306 But what a compulsion L305
307 307 I’m getting weary Note.
308 308 Fuck, piss, cock, shit, cunt
309 309 I have heard writers say Unknown-Class article
310 310 When I was a kid Note.
311 311 My pompous man again
312 312 It seems obvious that insanity
313 313 Word echoes. Job Unknown-Class article
314 314 Aristocrats are usually takers

January 27, 1955

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315 315 As was evident in the notes
316 316 But what is also interesting
317 317 What I distrust of course.
318 318 On the positive side
319 319 Letter echoes: Be Unknown-Class article
320 320 For some time I have wanted Note.
321 321 The business of putting
322 322 Corollary. Whenever one reads

January 31, 1955

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323 323 My birthday today
324 324 A few word echoes Unknown-Class article
325 325 Give-and-take
326 326 The possibility of other Notes.
327 327 The voice of radio and recordings
328 328 But, carry this a step further
329 329 One’s own voice
330 330 One other observation
331 331 Mimics are always psychopaths
332 332 Last week I wrote Search Note.
333 333 I have the feeling these days How should the 3rd sentence read?
334 334 A great deal of this journal
335 335 Jealousy. But what a mountain
336 336 The cynic
337 337 The conservatism of the female
338 338 Word echoes. Breath, stripped
339 339 Exceptional people Notes.
340 340 Which brings me to Bob Lidner Note.
341 341 Page 100
342 342 Stimulants. My ideas which started
343 343 Fascination keeps us on
344 344 What I neglected to say
345 345 Half-way stations
346 346 Journalists—another variety of psychopath
347 347 An interesting confirmation
348 348 Pro and con—prick and cunt
349 349 The Catholic Church
350 350 Word echoes. The and he Unknown-Class article
351 350A Word mirrors:
352 351 I cannot say it often enough Should “od” be corrected?
353 352 Horse-racing. An article Note.
354 353 Word echoes: Defense
355 354 Word echoes. Good, God
356 355 Good. Go to d, Go
357 356 Modern painting
358 357 The key to Bill Styron’s nature Note.
359 358 The inter-fecundation is starting
360 359 Which gives an insight into
361 360 I am always inept at arguing
362 361 More typing errors deliver Unknown-Class article
363 362 God and Jehovah, goal and jail Unknown-Class article
364 363 Word echo: By—By Unknown-Class article
365 364 A lot of this is probably
366 365 A corroborating proof
367 366 The reformer’s liberal ideas
368 367 Nat Halper. His work on the Joyce Note.
369 368 Modern art. Liberals, social democrats
370 369 Elena is a failure
371 370 Cancer. I believe instinctively
372 371 For The Deer Park
373 372 Word echoes: If and Is Unknown-Class article
374 373 I wrote the last note Unknown-Class article
375 374 Consonant echoes: X
376 375 The cross was where man
377 376 Adele’s qualities
378 377 The voice
379 378 A note on my Self-Analysis Notes. Is “sociismus” supposed to be “socialismus” (socialism)?
380 379 Word echoes. Son and sun Unknown-Class article
381 380 What-the-hell
382 381 Word echoes. Her and err
383 382 What I am doing with letters
384 383 Is W the world?
385 384 Son of a bitch
386 385 Simply, directly, I excited
387 386 Once in a while
388 387 f and v. F is fuck
389 388 I’m getting a little tired now
390 389 Anyway, I think I’ll finish Notes.

February 1, 1955

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391 390 Today makes two months
392 391 Last night, having dinner
393 392 Later, today, if I can Unknown-Class article
394 393 What appears to me right
395 394 Word echoes. (I suppose
396 395 Another word echo here
397 396 The Burglar again
398 397 Disagreeable as it is Notes.
399 398 I suppose the last note
400 399 To finish note 390 390 Notes.
401 400 One addition to this
402 401 Back from lunch
403 402 A comment on the above 402
404 403 At the other end Note.
405 404 The Catholic would argue Note.
406 405 I may have a clue
407 406 Word echoes. I’ve discussed jazz
408 407 If my identification of red
409 408 Gate. And r: Great.
410 409 The strength of the Church. Note.
411 410 A note on my father. Note.
412 411 And now I understand Monroe Note.
413 412 On how I can’t destroy love. Note.
414 413 One thing bothers me.
415 414 A lay analyst.
416 415 I have a hunch
417 416 My sexual scar.
418 417 Depression is coming on
419 418 Perhaps the sexual explanation
420 419 Jesus, I’d rather be
421 420 A little interesting and Unknown-Class article
422 421 Decadence. I wonder
423 422 The above note was written 422
424 423 Echoes and opposites.
425 424 The spectrum of the saint-psychopath. Note.
426 425 The above not ought 425
427 426 Before I quit, I want to list Unknown-Class article

February 2, 1955

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428 427 Continuing on H Unknown-Class article
429 428 The horrible thought occurs
430 429 The artist and his paranoia.
431 430 Note 214 was about the 215 Unknown-Class article
432 431 It is really incredible that
433 432 Each of the Church’s dictums
434 433 The gambler’s debt
435 434 I’ve spent the last few hours Notes. Where should the open parenthesis end? I don’t see the last sentence in the original.

February 7, 1955

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436 435 The opening into myself The first parenthesis does not close.
437 436 One idea in this Unknown-Class article Text added to 436.
438 436 The intellectual is antipathetic Unknown-Class article
439 437 At any rate each time Unknown-Class article
440 438 I have to explain what
441 439 But I go at this
442 440 Besides I may discover
443 441 Anyway, let’s go back Unknown-Class article
444 442 Parenthesis after parenthesis Unknown-Class article
445 443 The anarchist as he exists Unknown-Class article
446 444 But, again, back to give-and-take
447 445 Now, give-san-take
448 446 Give-and take is the secret Unknown-Class article
449 447 Marriage, every marriage Unknown-Class article
450 448 Up and down, in and out Unknown-Class article
451 449 The world of commerce Unknown-Class article
452 450 Action is one of the enigmas Unknown-Class article
453 451 Yet to stay alive we
454 451 Let me put it another way Unknown-Class article
455 452 So, a partial justification Unknown-Class article
456 453 Just above I wrote 42 Unknown-Class article
457 454 Perhaps the clue
458 455 The crook in Bob Lindner Note.
459 456 Sesame. The sex of me
460 457 But why can I understand Note.
461 458 After lunch, and how
462 459 Crooks are interested Note.
463 460 What I started to say Unknown-Class article
464 461 Japanese: Their word for yes Unknown-Class article
465 462 Chinese: A very primitive language Unknown-Class article
466 463 I’m one of the first Note.
467 464 There is so much to be said Unknown-Class article
468 465 The art of the playwright Note.
469 466 Beating and being Unknown-Class article
470 467 German. The Germans are philosophers Unknown-Class article
471 469 Anyway, the Germans Note.
472 470 eeeeeeeeeeeeeee Unknown-Class article
473 471 V becomes closer Unknown-Class article
474 472 Double V is WW Unknown-Class article
475 473 VVVVVVV is close Unknown-Class article
476 474 Vomiting. I see Unknown-Class article
477 475 Mother. The masculine other Unknown-Class article
478 476 Er would be a far
479 477 Super. To sup and to er
480 478 I’m getting tired again
481 479 But I haven’t even begun Note.
482 480 Any rationalist reading
483 481 For the first time I
484 482 In the middle of the cliché Unknown-Class article
485 483 But I just can’t get Unknown-Class article
486 484 Let’s start with orgasm
487 485 To attempt to go on
488 486 To be continued tomorrow Unknown-Class article
489 486a Before I go on with Unknown-Class article
490 487 So, if my premise Note.
491 488 I keep trying to write
492 489 Which is why I have
493 490 Mom. A cunt O
494 491 I’ve spent the last 423 Unknown-Class article
495 492 Following my Clue Unknown-Class article
496 493 Back to bisexuals Unknown-Class article
497 494 So, the bisexual in society
498 495 I’m getting hipped Unknown-Class article
499 496 The next “idea” Unknown-Class article
500 497 What characterizes the power-mad Unknown-Class article
501 498 I’ve just been out for lunch
502 496 This has all been a preface 499
503 497 At any rate, I still believe
504 498 And, of course, the little ^
505 499 What a jewel of a word Unknown-Class article
506 500 But what remains Note.
507 501 The cop is getting stronger
508 502 I’ve got to shake this off
509 503 The family dinner
510 504 I don’t have the patience
511 505 Dynamo. Dine at mom’s Unknown-Class article
512 506 While we’re on consonants Unknown-Class article
513 507 Example: Formalize (Fuck of Unknown-Class article
514 508 From time to time I worry
515 509 Course of events
516 510 I have postulated unisexuality Note.
517 511 We and Us Unknown-Class article
518 512 World. It is a prettier Unknown-Class article
519 513 But ‘rectal’ I’m sure Unknown-Class article
520 514 RL again. Relish Unknown-Class article
521 515 The difficulty in consonant Unknown-Class article
522 516 An old cliché is called Unknown-Class article
523 517 Regal—egal Unknown-Class article
524 518 Acts of the body
525 519 The is and the ing. Unknown-Class article
526 520 When an intelligent person Note.
527 521 Adele gets furious these days
528 522 Actually, there’s no contradiction Note.
529 523 But this opens the peculiar
530 524 Excelsior! Hardons onward
531 525 Excelsior: What I’m getting at
532 526 Now, of course, an analyst
533 527 Yet, we cannot deny it
534 528 I’m very dissatisfied
535 529 Time is Number Unknown-Class article
536 530 Toynbee’s challenge Unknown-Class article
537 531 We and wee Unknown-Class article
538 532 The beggar-king Unknown-Class article
539 533 The reason the common people
540 534 And so the enigma
541 535 And that is why certain Unknown-Class article
542 536 A dick is a cock Unknown-Class article
543 537 Twot. The thing of what? Unknown-Class article
544 538 Man and society Unknown-Class article
545 539 I just realized that the reason Note.
546 540 Anybody who’s really
547 541 I have to explore
548 542 Hemingway’s peculiar weakness
549 543 Depressants and stimulants
550 544 The above was hardly Unknown-Class article
551 545 So, to begin with, Unknown-Class article
552 546 I’m written out

February 10, 1955

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553 547 A new typewriter ribbon
554 548 Today is L plus 1
555 549 But what I want to try
556 550 This can help to explain
557 551 For the analyst and the analysand
558 552 I have come to a conclusion Note.
559 553 The fluoridation of water Unknown-Class article
560 554 Investigating the consonants
561 555 On the vowels
562 556 I have an idea Note.

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Questions

  1. What do we want to do with omitted entry numbers? Just skip them? Or should they be included in the digital version but not the printed?
  2. Are the numbers on Donna’s transcript the new, correct numbers? (I know Mike said that Mailer mis-numbered some entries.)
  3. Should each entry date have its own index page? Perhaps each numbered entry could be summarized here?
  4. Should each numbered entry should have its own (sub)page? I think yes.
  5. Should each numbered entry have a title other than a number? Each could have a shortcut, so if the title is Lipton’s Journal/December 1, 1954/1, the shortcut could be LJ1 or just L1.
  6. Should we categorize numbered entries? Thematically? Style of entry?